Miracle Drugs, Sam's Secret Strategies, Good Storytelling, and More

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Um, but dude, you gotta just fire up the old ad manager once in a while, take it for a spin. Well what I used to do is Any competitor, I would always click flag as spam. Yeah, I was gonna say there's only one reason you know that. Yeah, I would do it, I would do it constantly because when I was running the ads. Like I would have an ad set that got seen by like

Uh, 10 million people. And I would notice like if two people clicked flag, that would actually make a meaningful difference in the CPM and click through rate. And so the whenever I learn that, I'm like, Oh, every time I see someone I don't like. Flag. Flag, flag. It's it's honestly a miracle morning brew succeeded, given that you were doing this. My credit to them, actually. I created eight accounts just to flag them. All right. Um Wait, before we get in, we do have to remind everyone about the gentleman's agreement. So in fact, what you were saying about reporting things and clicking buttons, it just did remind me of the gentleman's agreement. And what is the agreement?

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And you click subscribe. And I'm not just saying that so we get more subscribers. I'm saying that so that you get more of the content that you need. I'm just looking out for you. And so that's just what one gentleman does for another. We dedicate our lives to this podcast. You spend fifteen seconds to click. Subscribe. It's like that's the gentleman's agreement. We can't go to your computer and check that you're doing this. So if you watch more than one episode, you owe it to us and that's just the agreement.

Yeah, it's more like a Santa, you know, naughty or nice list thing. You just need to do it. Just in case. So please do that for us. We work hard on this. Um Semiglutide. Do you want to talk about this? I've been wanting to talk about this. I'll be fairly open about semi glutide. I I decided I will. But I so you

Told me. Let's talk about semi-glutide. And I Feel a little bit vindicated because I've been telling you about this I I this happens a lot. I wanna say couple months ago.

Do you think it was a couple months ago? Let's just say a couple months ago. It was a little longer than that. It was more like Fairgo's um Dude, I'm getting an insane it's after the recording. After the recording, Sam usually unloads like one or two just Bombs. And he's like Dude, I'm getting in insane shape right now. I'm taking these drugs. And I was like what?

He's like, Yeah, I took this stuff. It's Dude, it's amazing. I don't wanna eat any sugar anymore. Hold on. We have the let me set a little bit of the stage here. So I like testing new products.

And that oftentimes includes body stuff. I'm just a fiend for testing stuff. I love testing everything. And I'm not opposed to Injecting myself. uh with stuff in order to test it. Just like I'm not opposed to buying a two thousand dollar thing to test it. Like I just I'm I love new technology. There's clinical trials they go phase one, phase two, phase three, phase sam. That's actually how drugs get to market. I said earlier that Pack

podcast. If I drive a place that says has the world's best coffee, I'm testing it. If I see a thing that says zero symptoms miracle drug, I'm testing it. So okay, so tell me uh so we'll we'll explain what this is. So there's a There is a set of drugs, actually. I so I don't even really know the medical stuff here, and I don't know how to pronounce anything. So you correct me where I'm wrong. But first of all, let's let's preface this by saying none this is one hundred percent bro science. And we're like m Wikipedia article and like three podcasts. Deep.

At best. So take everything what we're saying with a grain of salt. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Don't Do anything we say. Okay, continue on. So Basically the background of this is basically um

There was this drug that was created to help with diabetes. And the way this works is Uh sugar cravings. uh basically come from like a blood sugar imbalance. So like When you eat sweets or carbs or drink alcohol or something like that.

Your body releases insulin. And that like lowers your blood sugar to a lower level, but like when your blood sugar goes up and down, that makes you crave it more. So If you've ever noticed that like you get off sugar or like uh carb heavy stuff for thirty days, or you're like by week. two or three, you're like, great, I don't actually crave it anymore, but if you just taste it.

You're like, I need more. I need more. Mm-hmm. And so And so there's this Uh series of drugs that have been created for um

diabetes and you inject a very small amount of liquid, like Uh, I could say what that it is, but you wouldn't even know. But uh like enough to cover a quarter, like a very small amount. And you do it once a week. And they did this trial about I forget how many years ago, but they tested it with like three or four thousand people. And they gave people this drug. And originally it was used for diabetes, but then they tested it for weight loss and they gave people this drug

And they noticed that when they injected it in their body just once a week. Over the course of around a year, they lost roughly fifteen percent of their body weight. So what's that mean? If you weighed three hundred pounds, and this is for like obese people, if you weig three hundred pounds on day one by after one year, you weighed uh, what's that, forty five pound you lost forty five pounds in one year. And people were talking about this and they're like, This is the craest drug I've ever I've ever ta take because basically it

The it's an early drug, so we're not sure entirely of the side effects. So this is like the big the big downside, but like For the most part, the side effects were like my stomach hurt. I had some diarrhea, but then after like two weeks that shit went away. Um and so This drug, what it does is when you eat

bad food, like uh sugar or something like that. or carb, you can just eat a little bit of it and you feel full and you don't crave it anymore. And it makes it really fascinating. So ultimately what it does is it lowers your calorie intake from like you know, eating three thousand calories a day is Pretty easy.

For some people. Now it's like no, I feel super full after two thousand. I don't crave any more food. Right. And this drug is being taken to the the forms of this drug. It comes as like Ozempic or WeGov or there's like all these like kind of the the brand names of this same drug. Or this class of drugs. And it's being taken by tons of Hollywood celebrities. Um

tech kind of like tech people like Elon Musk. Elon Musk he was taking it. Um, who else? There's a bunch of people that that Have com kind of said they're taking your comments with. like basically what's going on with this drug is people were using it for diabetes. And then a couple of really famous people, including Elon. I think there's I think the Kardashians said they took it. And once that happened, then like

the the rest of the rich and famous started taking it. And so like the woman from the office, the Indian lady, uh Mindy or something like that. Yeah, there's a lot of people who think she's on it because she just lost a ton of weight. And then the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal separately each wrote articles saying out in the Hamptons and out in LA and Hollywood Everyone is on this drug and everyone automatically like it looks twenty pounds. thinner than they did six months prior. And it's maybe causing a shortage for the people who need it for diabet uh diabetes. Yeah, oat milk is out and Osempic is in. That's right. So okay, so this is this is what's going on. So you told me about this a few months ago.

And Like most things, I'm just like, I don't know what Sam's talking about. Sounds a little crazy. I'm just gonna sit this one out and see what happens. Then I hear about it again. Then I heard about it through one of the brand names. I didn't actually realize they were talking about the same thing you were talking about. Who was talking about it? Um, dude, I I can't tell you how many random places I have heard this. And then I'm on TikTok.

And There's a TikTok doctor talking about it. And I click the comments and literally the comments are all people with diabetes who are like This is why I can't get my drugs. Like what's going on? So there's possibly there's a ton of people with diabetes that are like experiencing because there's a shortage of access to uh

to these drugs right now. So they're trying to um try to keep up. So okay, where do we want to go with that? So there's a couple things. So basically you were ahead of the curve. You told me about it a couple months before I started hearing about it. It's still not fully out there. I wanted to talk about it now because I think three to six months from now.

This is gonna be like uh household name. A lot of people are gonna know this. Because it's gonna be on you know, CNN and Fox News, people are gonna talk about it, more celebrities gonna come out about it, there's gonna be controversies about it. There's gonna be all sorts of things. And so we wanna like call our shot and be like we talked about it early.

Yeah, we should have talked about it right when you said it and June, by the way. I t we I started uh learning about it in June. June. Yeah. Six months ago. Oh man. So you you've been way ahead of the curve. Okay, so So you tell me about this miracle joke now, I'm like

You know, most people uh miracle drug, you know, I I'm skeptical initially. So Can we talk about I guess like have you looked into the science and the side effects. I asked a doctor friend and he goes, Yeah, these drugs they're super effective. And he's like they work. Uh there's no he he's like, I don't know of any uh kind of known downsides to taking them right now, but also they're so new. So like, you know, we'll see ten years from now

You know. Everybody's small intestine is shriveled up into like a little P and they what what what happened? So what do you know? That's the downside, which is it now this particular drug I don't actually think it's that new. Like these types of things have existed for I I believe a couple of decades. Um, but they the the it is like new, like on a bigger scale.

Um, I read like there's like this ri original study that they tested this on two or three thousand people and they found that like the side effects are like for some people, you um Like you get muscle cramps or stomach cramps and like some things where you're just like uncomfortable for two or three weeks. For me. When I started uh toying around with it. I got really cold. I was like freezing all day. And I wanted to like wear a coat. And I thought that was just because I was just like

Nine percent body fat, but I think it was partially the drug. Um, there's another thing where like they There's a chance it causes thyroid cancer, but like Uh, they didn't that that doesn't seem like a statistically significant thing, at least not to the point of like causing true concern. I think the the biggest concern is I don't know.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Fair enough. And we're not that's not our specialty, so let's not uh uh talk too much about it. Let's talk about some of the I wanna talk about the business side and then I wanna talk about your Other experiments that you've done. Oh, wait, hold on. You know what's interesting though about this? Why this is gonna be big, I think. Dude. I think

I I think p there's a world where this like cures obesity. So there was one downside. Which is like a the study that they everyone lost this weight on. After they quit taking it. The downside is if you were into obesity Yeah. No, dude, the downside was like people gained weight after they quit taking it. Like they gave back like two thirds of the weight. So like if you don't like actually use it to create habits and then you get off of it, you're just gonna get fat again.

But Um I think there's a world where it helps Like get rid of obesity. I also think there's a world I think there's a world where it could help cure alcoholism. Dude, there's been people posting I like here. The reason the way I find all the find all this stuff is I go to forums.

Which we could talk about in a second. But People are like, I'm an alcoholic and I started taking this and I don't crave alcohol anymore. Like what's the name of a forum? Like Reddit, or you're talking about like deep forum, like bodybuilding dot com or something? Yeah. Yeah. So like it could be a body I will go to bodybuilding dot com or there's a Reddit called semi glutide. There's a Reddit called Uh uh

Oh, Zempic? And We Goby, there's subreddits for all of them. How many people are part of the Reddit Semiglutide. Uh let's look right now. So There are

Fourteen thousand. Not that many. So that's pretty low. That's not what I've got to do. But that's cool. That's enough people that like it gets pretty interesting. And then there's another one for like each brand name. So and then okay, so here's some kind of crazy business stuff. So To be I'm like wow, there's a there's a miracle drug.

That helps you lose weight easily and almost guaranteed. And people like tons of people and a bunch of celebrities are doing it, this thing is gonna fly. So sure enough, the you know, supply starts getting uh constrained'cause so too many people are trying to get it. Um Have you heard of some of these brands that try to get it to you and how create how much they're doing right now? So Are you going like the Norvo, the the European company, and then like the

Like does that make fun of it. The maker of it. So I was looking I was like how do I benefit from this? financially. I'm not taking this drug, but how do I make some money? That's that's a different drug. And um so I looked into the you know the maker of it, the stock, and then I was like, okay, well Um, how do uh who how are people getting this today? So first search if you search Ozempic is a company called Calibrate. And Calibrate has some crazy stats. So Calibrate Let me just send you uh or let me just send you. Go into calibrate dot com.

Yeah, so calibrate basically you go to their landing page and it's like Azempic online weight loss prescription. It's a safe doctor prescribe GLP one thing. Yeah, see if you're eligible and then basically You get it's like telemedicine. You get a call You get a prescription, you get your weight loss strip.

Um They They are currently valued at about forty uh four hundred fifty million. This company? In less than twenty four months.

Um They've basically scaled to about a fifty million dollar run rate. No way, really? Kind of crazy. So June, uh July twenty twenty. It's a zero. Um, July twenty twenty one, it's less than like you know, it's You know, it's tiny.

And then it's gone up. I wanna say what is this? How did you see this? Um, I can't really say, but it's gone up, you know, ten X in a year. Um So that's kinda crazy and they pretend to do why.

You project by the end of this year they'll be at sixty million, and by the end of near they'll be at one hundred forty million. So semi glutide, it costs like five hundred bucks a month. And when you take it, you're like, This is dope. I'm I don't want to quit taking this. Right. Hey, turn off the heater. I got pay for a Zempic. You like what would you pay to like

Be ripped. You know what I mean? You'll pay a lot. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I won't it turns out I won't do is inject myself with a you know, kinda newish drug, but you know, I think I'm I'm in the minority here. It looks like the majority of people are doing it. So uh there's this company, there's NextMed. Um Obesity is a disease, not a choice. We will help correct your body chemistry with a with this drug. Um okay, that's pretty

pretty strong um Pretty strong marketing. Okay, cool. So that's uh that's the first part is people are gonna Google search this thing like crazy. If you go to Google Trends right now, And you search for like a Zampic or you search semi glutide. You just see it's like Basically going up up. And then the the Google trends, like, you know, they do this forecast where it's like a dotted line and the dotted line is going straight up to a hundred. Is it really?

Yeah. They're like this thing is gonna fly. Um, and so like you know, I I think there's there's gonna be a lot of people doing this. I think that If you are creating content that is reviews, s reviews, science, uh like summarizes summarizing the science around this stuff. I think that you can make a killing right now if you can get in the top rank on SEO or on YouTube. Doing

reviews and um scientific summaries and um FAQs on this uh on on these drugs because you will then be able to affiliate link out. That leads to the And if it's five hundred dollars a month and people are staying on this thing for

Multiple years You might be getting paid You know three thousand dollars a lead or ten thousand dollars a lead or something like that. Right. Like it it could get kind of crazy depending on what the lifetime value is of these things. And so um

I think that somebody who creates content for those Google searches is gonna do really, really well. Right. Like if I go search I haven't looked at all the uh SEO tools for this, but Well, a lot of the when I went and I went and researched this like crazy and I used um YouTube and I used a bunch of different stuff to like learn about it. Th the majority of this content is mostly for women who are Overweight.

You know, it's It's a it's overweight women and I went and I was like Okay, but is this What does this drug do for like Kinda fit men.

I was like, what's going you know, I think that's like the niche that I'm curious about. Like okay, cool. If you're handsome podcasters as a uh Is there a niche for like uh like guy next door? Like you know what I mean? Um But I was like looking for like all right, so if you're three hundred pounds, this could make you Two hundred pounds, but like You know, like I don't need to be less fat. Like I I just want to, you know, how do I just got a beam on his face and a B plus body. Yeah. Where am I going after this?

How can a Missouri eight become like a New York seven? That's just what I wanted to know. That was the niche. Um, so I was trying to learn about it, but there's like not that much content. There's some content on about it on YouTube with like Joe Rogan and More Plates More Dates talks about it. Huberman is beginning to talk about it a little bit, but there's not a significant amount. Right. I also think that uh

owning a Facebook group of people who are trying these things out. Even batching it by month, like November you know, Ozempic bunnies and it's like, you know, here here we go. We're all going in. How's everyone doing? Oh my God, it's amazing. Oh, you're on the fence? click this link and you can get in, you know, like here's here's how it works. And so I think that there's a bunch of different ways to be an affiliate for this stuff that that I think is gonna do well, plus obviously the companies that are selling this stuff directly.

And you don't want to take this? You're not you're not on board. Um, like I don't know, I'm fine. Like I I I'm not like m uh completely against the idea of taking it. I just Uh I play it safe when it comes to health stuff, and uh I I play it safe more more more than anything else. And so

If there's a lot of unknowns or and it sounds a little too good to be true, I just gotta wait and like Yeah. I get shredded next year's fine. Two years from now, if I wait this out, I'll be okay. Uh, all I'm saying if this really is gonna make it so that nobody gets fat anymore. Then honestly, being shredded ain't gonna mean shit anyways. So uh not sure. Not sure how I feel about it.

You're just fighting the advances of of modern science at your own loss. You know what I mean? I'm like a flat earther of of the body. Well, and and we should say like I do think that like being natural Like I P I think there's pros and cons where there are like people are like, Well, I don't want to take drugs and I'm like, Well, like

Would you keep would you take The and they imply that natural's better. And I'm like, I think that's actually a a stupid argument because like I can go eat some seed. That's natural and that can kill me. And also like if you're if you're sick Do you do chemo?

Of course you do. And so where do you draw the line as to like what you will and will not do and I love testing drugs and testing all my like I said new products. I'm like, I actually want to find out where my line is. You know, is your like You could be like, Well, I'm not gonna drive a car. That's not natural and it kill people, but I'm like Yeah, but it's pretty.

pretty sick. Cars are cool. Like so like it it kinda makes it worth it. So I I I challenge people to ask themselves and For them, they may say, Well, I just don't want to take anything and I say that I think that's great. Do what you want. But I always think it's like an interesting argument when people say they're unwilling to take a certain drug and I'm like, Well, but you're

You drink this. Coca-Cola or if you take Advil, like w where are we gonna draw the line? Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna draw the line at things that um I already thought we're normal and new things stay out. That's that's the reality. I'm I'm what you call dug in. I've made my mind and I'm not changing. Okay. I have mental cleats and I'm in the ground right now. Um

Where do we go from here? Um Let's move on. So um Other things. Oh wait, wait. Let's finish up with weird things that you've explored that are not so good. So this looks too good to pass. So vaping weed. I was on that train since two thousand and four and I used to

So nowadays, because I was like, well, I want weed, but I don't want like Smoke. And I was never like a weed guy, but I like w I remember thinking about this and I'm like I don't I don't really even like this drug, but like the whole smoke thing seems weird. And so years ago.

I bought a thing. Where I was like trying to research like crazy and like There's vaporizers, but and there's this thing called a volcano. You know what that is? No. It's like a six hundred dollar vape thing that would like put

vape in like this plastic bag and you would toss it around around the room and I was like, that's stupid. And um so I like went and found this like wood maker who made like an oven with that you light on fire. It's basically like a meth pipe for weed and it heats the weed to like a certain temperature and it turns it into vapes. And I was like portable vapes. This is gonna be a thing. And then like packs came out.

How how far ahead of the curve were you on that? So you started vaping two thousand and four. That's crazy. Uh when did vaping become popular? I feel like that's like five years ago. Five years ago, but I was all about vaping. The other vape that I thought was gonna be a thing and it never turned out. I learned about vaping alcohol. Turns out that's not like there's not like that much science to it, and butt chugging is actually the way to go. But I was I was curious about Like can you actually get drunk off of vapes? I remember like trading diff We gotta put up the picture of you with the incredible

Hicktan uh versus you now. This is the like uh Zempic carry out infomercial. How did you feel about that? That's pretty messed up, right? What's what's pretty messed up there? Your before picture. So basically I posted a before picture on Twitter and my before picture, it looks like I'm Kid Rock's nephew. Uh before picture honestly looks like s like somebody is staging A before picture. It's like all right, how do we make this As crazy as possible. Like yeah, just like turn the knob up all the way. Like

Yeah, like somebody said it looks like you guys that guy definitely has a couch in his lawn. Later that day, I saw a guy get shot in his leg with an AK 47 in a drive by. I it was the most hectic part of my life. I was like, this guy definitely has like a a a loose you know, hot dog in his pocket right now. Yeah. So you um you know You you are a man of progress. You're a symbol of progress. Um so that that's amazing. The Uh other thing you said you're taking some like crazy wonder drug for your uh Achilles right now. You wanna talk about that or no? I'm I'm I'm looking into this thing and I've and I've tested it out a little bit. Uh it's called BP C one fifty seven.

So it's a it's a peptide, which is it's hard to I I I'm not a doctor. I don't even like explaining this stuff, but it's basically um Like an amino acid and it Okay, we we have no public math. Maybe we should also have no public science. Well, here here's why I started getting interested. I started reading on Reddit on like the peptide uh what's it called? Uh peptide Reddit. And this guy was like My shoulder has been hurting me for twenty years and I injected myself with this thing and like three days later I have zero pain. And I've complained for like five years that my Achilles and my calf I like it always I'm always in pain.

And so I was like Screw it. This one Reddit guy. I'm gonna try this out. And so I did it. My calf feels amazing. I have zero pain. Dude. And so that's my point. So

I think And this is kinda what I wanted to talk about. I so like I think that you can find patterns In non Quantitative places.

So Facebook groups, forums Article comments. uh comments on um like when box or CNN or whatever when they post their articles on on Facebook looking at the comments and Ninety. percent of it is total nonsense.

But there's something interesting about like repeatedly seeing these things. Like Here's a really like controversial one. That was controversial at first, but now we're like Uh, maybe it's not.

bad. It's like when you were when I I I follow all political spectrum on Facebook. So I can see like what articles are the trends. And I'm like Wow, Fox keeps po or Bright Park keeps posting about Wuhan lab and like a virus coming out of it. Like What what the No this It we did it this didn't come out this way, but why do they keep saying this? And so it can't be true. Someone ate a bat in their soup, and that was what happened. Yeah, that's what I thought. But like this is and this is just one example where where nowadays we're like

Huh, that's actually plausible, maybe. And so what I try to do is whenever I see these crazy things, I try to say, what's the repeated pattern? And let me ask myself, like, what is the evidence? Not These people are crazy or this is stupid. So like if I hear about a drug or a product My er my I used to say

You're just nuts. You're insane. You don't know anything that you're talking about. You're just be normal. Now I say, Well, why are you saying that? And like, is there any evidence? Here's like, for example, here's one that was interesting. And I'm not a political guy. It just so happens that the political things are like way easier because there's way more of'em. I saw this like crazy Instagram handle say that Putin has cancer and he's like Close to dying. That could be total nonsense. But I'm like

That's really weird that someone would say that. Let me like go and research and then like I'm like research like Oh wow he did. Cancel. to like things recently. So I understand why you could jump to that like conspiracy. But like it's just like interesting to see like new ideas pop up and patterns that repeatedly happen and then to ask yourself why. And that's typically how I find a lot of interesting trends. Another one is like, do you remember keto being really popular? Yeah.

Dude, Keto's dead. Keto's Keto's gone. Like I I would bet, I haven't looked at it, but go to Google Trends right now and type in Keto, and I bet you it looks like a mountain. Like we're on the right side of the mountain where it's going down. And uh like you just start seeing these trends where like people are like who does keto anymore? Or uh let you just start seeing these things. And I find that so fascinating, like to figure out where these subcultures are on the internet and what do people who are considered freaks, what are they believing and actually which one of their controversial opinions is gonna prove to be true and like You know, a couple years.

You know, I gotta give it to you. Um, when you first started saying that you saw a guy on Reddit say that his shoulder pain went away and then you injected yourself. I thought to myself. Yeah, an idiot. But now I realize I misjudged you. Yeah.

You're a biohacker. We just needed to change the We just we just went from mayonnaise to Aoli and I love it. That's all you needed. You didn't you didn't be like, Yeah I uh I just take random drugs from recommended by strangers on the internet. You need to say I'm part of the biohacker community. Yeah. It's like Indiana It's like Indiana Jones rebranding a a male purse. Like he nailed it. That's what I need. All right, let's go to the next one. Um Okay, I got something kinda interesting for you. So Uh speaking of Indiana Jones.

I saw a clip. This is actually a good transition. I saw a clip of the new Indiana Jones trailer. I don't know if you've seen this. Have you seen the new movie trailer for Indiana Jones? No, I I play sports and work out and stuff. So

I don't watch like wizard movies. Well top five wizard. He so it's played by Harrison Ford, right? But you know, Indiana Jones is like the remake, but it's Harrison Ford again and there's In the trailer, there's this one scene. Or Harrison Ford, who you know, he looks like uh

You know. Like somebody calls him Papa now, like you know, he's uh he's he's he's a little older. Um He Like rewinds the clock and he looks like young Harrison Ford in a scene. And I was like, they do how they do that. For people of that age is gray bush. Sho that's the preferred nomenclature. Show some respect. Okay, no, my bad. Pronouns are gray slash bush, so um

So I was like, how did they do that thing where they like made him look young in that one scene? Like that was pretty pretty cool. And I found out that the South Park guys have a company around this. Have you seen this? The guys who created South Park have this company called Deep Voodoo. And they raised a lot of money for it. They raised twenty million dollars.

And what they're doing is They are creating deep fake technology for movies. So they're like, yo Visual effects? Expensive as hell. What if we can do it using AI and deep fakes?

And um the way this works is they actually were making a movie That required a lot of visual effects. And so they were kind of building this technology in house for their own production. And I think something happened. COVID happened. They shut down the movie. And so now the movie is not happening, but they s they're like, Well, how do we turn this, you know, turn this lemon into lemonade? How do we turn this failure into, you know, something that could be successful? And so they spun out the technology as its own company and they're like, Yeah, we're gonna basically Do this use this technology to

make it easier to do visual effects. And so then there's this uh I put a link in in our doc here. Um oh no, I didn't put the link in. But there's a a music video by what's his name? Uh Kendrick Lamar. It was amazing. Okay, you've seen this video. It was amazing. Yeah, dude. I was gonna I was I've been looking into this. I was

Play sports. You exercise and you also watch rap videos. I'm not a normal podcaster, I'm a cool podcaster. Dude, the Kendrick Lamar music video is so good. It is so good. It's magic. They use this technology. So what he's doing is he's uh he's describing it like you you know it better than I do. I've only seen it once. Sounds like you actually saw it in the wild. Basically if I'm w uh it's it's just basically a close up of Kendrick Lamar. And it's just him rapping.

Uh so it's Kendrick Lamar, The Heart, Part Five. It's him sitting sitting in a chair. Yep. It starts off it's him. Then at like the one minute forty five second mark, all of a sudden His face just changes into OJ Simpson.

And it looks like he's wearing the same shirt, same hair. It just just his facial features change to identical to OJ Simpson, but he keeps rapping. And it's not like You know, sometimes you see these AI things where the mouth is like It's like not quite moving with the words.

And you would think that it'd be pretty hard to do with rap. Um Mm-hmm. But they did it. It's like it looks perfect. And he looks like OJ, then he changed it to Will Smith, then he changes into Kanye, then he changes into Nipsey Hussle, he changes it and he just keeps

uh morphing. And if you look at the bio it says Deep fake. from deep voodoo special thanks. To Matt Stone, Trey Parker, and Deep Voodoo. uh for the production of this video. And so that is uh that's pretty cool. And I think this is kind of amazing. These guys

These guys the uh you know, the the South Park guys That's kind of like a Like some people look up to Elon and they're like, Wow, Elon is the the Yeah. That's the

That's the best it can be, career wise. You know, he's the he's the Michael Jordan. For me, these guys are a little bit more like the Michael Jordan. I agree, man. The creator. Creation of South Park. South Park's amazing. The way they went about it, the way they poured their heart and soul into it. If you've ever watched that movie

What is it, seven days to air? Have you seen this movie? Yeah, it's awesome, man. It basically shows. How they they produced South Park in one week. Every episode is in one in seven days. And they just followed them for like a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. And then it's like Boom. Here's the The episode goes live and

All right, back to the meeting room tomorrow. We gotta do another one, and we do that for the whole season, and that's how they stay super topical with their with their um shows, whereas other shows can't because they They film the whole thing over a longer period of time or they animate it over a longer period of time. So they can't do things that just happen. Um So they did that. They did Book of Mormon, so now then they they crush it at the play.

um you know Broadway play, you know, space. Now they're doing it with this product this uh technology company, this production company. I think they just signed a nine hundred million dollar deal, by the way, with somebody. So these guys are just like crushing. What not what nine hundred million dollar deal? I think with uh Viacom they signed a deal, I think for South Park or uh I don't know if South Park or it's other shows too, but It's that's crazy, dude. And I bet I I wouldn't doubt if they're each worth something like four hundred million dollars.

Um, these guys are like prolific and they've done it. How long has South Park been around? I think like thirty years. And they're just sorry, not thirty, but just friends, dude. It's great. Yeah, they're great, man. And like What's funny is these guys make like Ranchy

Kid comedy. And They've never had like a blemish. Like they've never really done anything wrong. Like the worst thing they've ever done is like gone to like the remember when they went to the award ceremony on LSD and they dressed up like J Lo? No. So there was like that uh there was an MTV movie awards where J Low wore this uh Jennifer Lawrence or Lopez wore this like green dress that was like risque and like was iconic, whatever the next year They dressed up like they wore that. Actually, I do remember this. Yeah, that dress is iconic. So And they tell the story. They're like, Yeah, we just like took a bunch of LSD and decided to do that. And they're hilarious. These guys are the best and they're super prolific, man. They're awesome.

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So they signed a$900 million deal with Viacom CVS in August of 2021. Book of Mormon, their Broadway play, has grossed$500 million in revenue, and they just raised$20 million for this new deepfake company. Um and basically They say, you know, deep fakes have this rap of being, you know, problematic'cause there's gonna be fake news and there's gonna be misinformation.

But also it's gonna be really important for Hollywood films, so Things like um de aging the character like in Har in uh like Harrison Ford in Indiana Jones or The music video stuff that you saw. Their bet is that visual effects are too expensive and that deep fake technology can make it much more cost effective to do creative work.

And um Yeah, it's kinda crazy. So they They basically had a movie they had a movie suspended due to Covid. They pivoted out the team and decided to provide deep fake tools to Hollywood. Um Before that the thing they were making was a fourteen minute comedy featuring a a deep faked version of Donald Trump.

And so that's what got uh can. Um Did you just yawn during your own segment? I've been doing a lot of talking here. You know, another good another good South Park thing, another good South Park thing that I stole from them a long time ago was there's this video of them talking about storytelling.

We seen this where they're like uh They're we have one trick when it comes to story the one rule when it comes to storytelling. And um They it's like they're teaching a class, I think, on storytelling.

And they go anywhere. You can say Yeah. And then this happened. He's like, you know, what when a kid tells a boring story, they're like

I came from school and then my mom said this, and then she said I can have some candy and then she got the candy and then it's like this is the most boring story ever. Just you know, kill me now. And then yeah, and then is that a key word where You're not providing any twists and turns that would make this an interesting story. You're just layering on more shit, more shit, more shit. And so they're like Swap that with a But therefore.

So instead you would say I came home from school and asked my mom for candy. But she wasn't home. And she's always supposed to be home. Therefore.

I went outside and I started saying, Mom, Mom, Mom Mom. But the only person who was there was this uh my neighbor who's always creepy, blah blah blah. And so but and therefore make for an interesting story, whereas and then makes for a boring story. So they can literally take a script and just cross out. All the sort of like and then uh types of s of of connector words and replace them with a button so or a button therefore.

We someone tweeted, um, why do you like My first million and we got like hundreds of replies and The common thread was Um Sean just oozes and drips charisma and his storytelling is so

Good and it's just addicting. And Sam has a funny wife. One guy goes Sean's got such good stories and he's such a Great storyteller. Sorry, Sam. Yeah, I don't know what was going on there. I think'cause I retweeted it, so it was like, you know, people who who like me, I guess, who were who were replying, but um

Yeah, they were like, you know Uh the the experience, the stories, whatever. I was like, I feel like your experience of stories and like Crazy weirdness is what makes the podcast tick. I really believe that. I think Oh, here's another compliment I got for you. I was actually gonna start the pod with this, I forgot.

I was when we were at that um like, you know, weekend retreat or whatever. Uh, I had asked somebody a question. I was like,'Cause I'm trying to think about what to do in my life, right? I'm like, okay, sold milk road. Thinking about what's next. And I was like

Okay, I think life comes down to Like Picking the right thing to want. So like picking what you want. And then bending reality to make it happen.

Yeah. And Picking the right thing to want in the first place. Is Almost even harder than f becoming a reality bender. Like at this point, I believe I'm a reality bender. That was hard, but that was the first fifteen years. And now I realize, oh shoot, if I am a reality bender, I better pick right.

And so I said So I asked somebody, I go, I go, Who is there? I go Man, who do we know? Who who are examples of people that I feel like they pick the right things to to care about and to work on and like go for like they pick the right Goals, basically.

And then they bend reality and make them happen. And I was like Who's like A plus at both of those things? And I thought I would have this like handful, like just like a a basket full of examples that I could just be pulling out from for inspiration. And what I found was that even the people who I think are super smart Most of them.

We're picking like dumb things to to think about, care about, work on, right? Like they were not picking well. And then a bunch of people who Picked well. weren't ever gonna bend reality to their will. It was like, Yeah, I talked to him five years ago, still wanted that.

Here we are five years five years later. Yeah, no no real progress. You know, they're still just chucking along kind of like they don't really they haven't really figured out how to make it happen. So like I'll give you some examples of what I mean by this. So we have a buddy I'll kind of pick on him I'll pick on him, but I won't say his name. Very successful, probably worth, I don't know.

Hundred to two hundred million. Um I feel like has just been batting a thousand, like just had wins ever since the age of like, you know, twenty four. Like just kind of first thing worked. In a small way. Next thing worked.

In a big way. Now they're doing a new thing, you know. That's yeah, or the in between they invested in a bunch of things. Good good investments. Um Now they're doing a new thing. It's sure enough, it's working. And they make it look easy. To the point where I was jealous, I was like, damn, this person makes it look easy.

And I'm like But the problem is And I even told them this, I go I feel like you beat the level of this video game and then instead of going on to the next level You just hit reset on your Super Nintendo and play that same level again.

And you're doing that thing where you're just almost like trying to speedrun that same level, like Perfect. You know, like people who play Mario and they're like, I'm gonna perfect this level. Right. It's like, dude, just go to the next level and put have have a different adventure, have an improved adventure, right? Like more challenging or more interesting or just new. And there were first they were like when I told them this, they I was like

Um, they were starting a new thing. It was working. Everybody else was patting them on the back being like You done it again. It's working. I can't believe how easily you're able to make these things work. And I was sort of like I feel that way, but I also feel like you're playing the same level. Of course you're making this work again.

You already know how to do this. Um they did a thing recently where they bought a company. And they were super pumped that the company like And it was a great buy. They made a great buy. They bought a company. It's not like they had a background buying companies. They just did it.

They bought the right thing. It wasn't available on the market. They found the person, they convinced them to sell. It's making a few million dollars of profit a year. They they're gonna pay back their whole investment in, you know, fifteen months or something like that. It's a fantastic buy by all accounts. But why w why are they doing that? What what does that bring to your life? You're already worth You know, a hundred to two hundred million dollars this

Two million dollars a year of profit is not doing anything except for distracting you from maybe what you should focus on, which would be something else. And um It's kinda nitpicking, you know, like a s you know, somebody who's you know pl amazing at the at a game. So I I kind of don't want it to be I don't mean it in a negative way. I just made it in man, it's really hard. To find somebody

Who picks the right shit. and knocks it out the park. And what do I know? As I'm brainstorming, I'm like Dude, I think Sam is that guy. Because

And I thought of A couple of people, but I just like last night when I was thinking about this, I was like Dude, Sam is the best example. Let me tell you why. I remember when you were um

Like you've done a bunch of things where you're like, I'm gonna motorcycle across America. It was like not what everybody else was picking. You weren't just following a herd. Um You then immediately went and did it. So you've done a bunch of things that like I feel like You were choosing. You didn't just do what everybody else was doing.

And each one added to your like life. Value. Uh so it's like, oh, this trip across America, right? Or This way to make a bunch of money, uh, you know, because having a bunch of money gives me this like Safety net and ability and ammo to go do cool stuff.

Even after you uh so the newsletter was another one where it's like, What the hell is this guy doing? Uh, but you figured it out, you bent bent reality to your will, you made it happen. And you were completely right, right? I I was like, Oh, you're gonna do a content company and your answer is I'm gonna do better content. And I was like, Where's the disruption? Where's the technology? Where's the new platform? What's the what's the pitch? And the pitch was like, Yeah, like you ever read this stuff, man? It's dry, it's boring. It doesn't even t like it doesn't speak to us. And I was like Your plan is to be less boring? That was literally your business plan. Right? That was literally your pitch deck for the hustle. I call it the Daily Show effect. Yeah, I was like, dude, that is not a pitch. I remember I was trying to give you like help. I was trying to help a friend. It turns out I needed the help. So stupid. It was so stupid. I can't believe it worked if I'm being honest.

Like I was right in a way that it didn't become like a multi billion dollar company because you're doing some like crazy crazy shit. But like so it w it may not have been the right investment. So I maybe I was right there, but but f who cares? Cause you were like, dude, I'm gonna own ninety percent of this And I'm gonna sell this, I'm gonna have, you know, like whatever, tens of millions of dollars in my bank account, which will let me live and do whatever the hell I want by the time I'm thirty. And then sure enough, it's exactly what you did. You bent reality to your will. You picked the right goal. You were like, I'm gonna have this like. Huge financial war chest. By doing the thing I know.

Um, I'm gonna have fun, build a cool brand, and meet a bunch of cool people along the way, like you did with HustleCon. So you did that. Then You were like, All right. Should I do this Airbnb thing? He started thinking about luxury Airbnbs and short term rentals and creating a portfolio there. And I was like, wow. How does he think of it? Like what

You again, that's not where most people are going with the next step of their career. And You start p and then you and then the thing you've picked now, which we don't talk about too much now, but like the thing you've picked now eventually, yeah. I think is the perfect project for you. And it's the perfect project for where you're at. And I'm like, damn, he did it again. I even text you this. I go.

Your project selection was so perfect. All I can do now is try to think of the second best project to pick for for myself. And what was my reply to you? Did you remember? Uh you so you were like dude, you had this, you s you know, you stopped, right? Or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,'cause I actually I we I don't want to say too much because then it'll it'll kinda give it away, but like

Yeah, I had prototyped the same idea. Um, liked it. But I was like, you know, didn't have it all kind of figured out and I wasn't really ready to go do a new thing. And so I just kinda like I took the like the quick win and I moved on. And you were just like

Oh, wait. That's like, you know, that that's actually you figured out the right way to do it and you're doing it and it's amazing and it's gonna work. So Him. Dude, I just want to say I think you're that guy. And I think this is a really important thing to figure out is

Who are the people that you think Um Choose the right things to focus on. And then are able to bend reality to their will.

'Cause that's like the one two punch that is uh like most important in life. And I think that um well, thank you for those compliments. You got by the way, one one more, one more. It's not just about work. Right. So it's like Fitness.

Right, if we showed that before and after, like you really like made it a point. to get in phenomenal shape. Health wise. That's and and not just sh like your and not just like shape, but like Mobility. Strength, athleticism, like things that actually like

Mm. de-aging, right? Like they're the reverse reversing aging rather than just how many friends do we have? That just basically are like only focused on stockpiling success and money. And you meet him and you're just like, dude, like

You're just going downhill, right? Right. Like the aging It's like It's going at double speed. So yeah, you're making more money, but you're doubling your age rate by the stress, the lack of the bad lifestyle that you're living, right? It's like it's not good. Um, and so that's very common. And I think you're uncommon in that. The last one is like let's say family or relationships, that sort of thing too. Like How do you make a point?

to be good at that, right? Choose the right focus. All right, I want to have this great family life. And then bend reality to your will. And so I think Mm. Uh I really respect that, you know, about you and I think that that's something that I'm looking for more models of that in my life because

Um I now realize that that's the most important one to punch. Well thank you. I think Not to make out with you on this podcast, but Yeah, if you want, like buy me dinner first. Uh but I think you got you you we flattered you uh with this tweet. So you got your ego. I was I was I Message Sean I go.

God, these guys really hurt my feelings. Um But I think The reason why I able to do some of these things. One

I think it was Guy Richie. He said something like You are the director of your own movie. Uh, and whenever I heard that line, I was like Oh yeah, like I don't like this game I'm playing, but I also make up the rules. So I'm gonna

I'm gonna make the rules to my game. I'm like it's like I only have myself to blame if I'm not happy because I'm make I make the rules. And so that kinda changed my perspective. And another thing, I was working with Sophia Amaruso, that she's um the uh nasty gal. you know, big company. And then now she's got business classes, new things. She's w her and I become great friends. And that she was like, Hey, I need some help with my two thousand twenty three goal setting. And I was like, cool, here's um my framework for doing this. Uh let's sit down and sit for an hour and do it. And I was like, Sophia, how are you so successful and you've never like

written down like what you're proud of the previous year, what you regretted, what would make you happy to accomplish this year, what those numb like I'm like I was like, all right, so here's how much money How much money do you want to make? What would make you happy? Okay, that number. All right, great. Let's work backwards. I have a plan. All right, cool. What about uh I always do family fitness. Fan finance.

So I'm like All right, what about relationships? What what would make you proud in one year to be All right. Let's do um uh f uh your body. uh, you know, where do you want to be physically? Let's write down a plan for that and like boom. So we just set aside this time. That was our worry time. This was the time where we're gonna stress and we're gonna worry about what's gonna make us happy.

And we're gonna make a guess that boom, that's gonna make us happy. Then we're gonna stress on this plan. Have we settled? Is the plan done? The plan's done. I'm not worrying about it anymore. All I'm doing is executing this. The worry time is done. Next quarter, I'll give myself eight hours on a Sunday. Then I can worry then, but between now and then, there is no such thing as worry. All that all all that there is is I'm executing the plan. The worry time already happened and I've got scheduled worry time in the future. And so what I think a lot of people don't do is they don't spend enough time.

sitting down and saying, What do I want? What are the rules of the game that I'm going to play? And let's create those rules and literally write them down and for the next Some period of time, I'm gonna follow those rules as best I can. And then we're gonna reassess are those rules actually good. I don't think people do that systematically enough.

So you said something like, you know, I didn't like the way that the movie was going, but then I realized I'm the director and I could switch it. Like w what was that? point and what was the movie like before and then what what did you make a point to switch? Well, um, you know, when I was between the ages of like nineteen and like twenty three, like I had some substance issues and I

Got in trouble and everything. And I remember this sounds like really lame. But I remember watching a concert. It was actually Oasis, which makes us even lamer. And they were singing a song. And I remember like watching.

Yeah, it was like really lame. I remember I was like drunk in bed like watching this YouTube video and I remember like the singer was outputting very little energy. Like And yet there is a hundred thousand people in the crowd singing back to them and I'm like Wow, that's leverage, man. This guy wrote this song in his bedroom and is like because it's such a good song and he has such an interesting personality that he's got like a hundred thousand fans as well as 40 million views repeating back to him the words, even though he's exerting a little bit of energy.

That's leverage. That's the ideal way to live your life is to have leverage. And I'm wasting it. And so I remember like changing it around after I saw that and I'm like, that is. Uh I was like, I think I'm special enough to do something like that. I don't know how I'm going to do it. But I know I have the ability to get there, but I'm wasting it by not leveraging myself. And I can only truly have leverage if I focus on like what my goals are gonna be. So I remember like going through that. And like that is really what changed it. And then moving to San Francisco and meeting you meeting a a couple of other people and it normalized achieving goals. And then I realized, okay, great. I can bend the reality.

Easily. I know how to do that. Now I just gotta figure out on what do I want. And then just figuring out like what's a holistic want. And so I met a couple people. Um I mean. It's like

They weren't all focused on work and I would ask them why they're doing something and they're like 'Cause it's sick. And I was like, Oh, that's cool. Life can be fun. Like it doesn't just have to be about money. And uh Yeah, I remember changing when I lived in Nashville when I was a loser. I was like

I'm a fucking loser right now, but I know I have an it factor. And when you uh You met people who have a who had a holistic Like a holistic want, is that what you called it? Yeah, like or I'll just like read about them. So like Laird Hamilton. You know Laird Hamilton?

Yeah. Like he interests me, or like Rob Deirdick, where these guys and I'm like You're just doing dumb shit. Just to do dumb shit. And they're just like, Yeah, but it's fun. And I'm like, Oh my God, you're so right. That it it is fun. I that I need to have more fun.

So like I remember like reading or talking about them on the pod and that like kinda has changed a little bit too. Yeah, and you kind of seem to like these people that um Like they kind of chart their own path or they're like they just they do it somewhat like uh Like Rob Deerdick, you know, it's like he's a skateboarder makes it kind of like a a show that's like um

You know, hanging out with his friends and this like f the fantasy factory and like all this stuff, right? Like It's kind of like your fun, but it's like have fun on blast or have f turn your fun into business in some way, right? Is that is that kind of like a good description like why do you like those personalities more than Um Yeah, whoever, you know, the the

the traditional people that people look up to. Like I don't think most people in in who are entrepreneurs when you say Who do you think kinda got it figured out or who do you who did you look up to? They're not like Laird Hamilton and Rob Dier, right? That's like a pretty unique thing to say. So why is that? Because most people don't live life intensely enough and Because they and they I think they don't live it intensely enough because they're afraid. And I'm afraid too. But then I see people do stuff. So Like for example

Um Like, wouldn't it be cool if we owned like a farm and we just go out there and just like shoot guns and ride motorcycles and like have a blast? Like that would be fun. Like If you're just like sitting around, you're like, I wish I could do that. It's like Cool. You can do that.

You're gonna make this much money, you're gonna save it, you're gonna go buy this farm, then you're gonna go and buy all the motorcycles, and then you're gonna tell all your friends about it, and like now you have this thing. Like You can do that. Like or like Or some people are like Man, it'd be like I like cars. I'm like, I wish I just had a warehouse full of cars and I could just sit around my friends and just like tinker on the cars. I'm like Great.

You can do that. Like I I just think that you can make any rule you want and then like make it a reality. So that's why I I just like get off on that. And I don't think people Uh even when it comes to work. fitness or fun that they dial up the the the they're living at like a three when they it's very easy to turn it to an eight. So what would be let's say before your twenties your twenties

two or whatever, and now you're thirty what are you, thirty one, thirty two? Uh, I was born in eighty nine. What does that mean? I'm thirty three. Thirty five thirty three. Okay, so you're thirty three years old.

And I feel like you did a uh kind of like you dialed up the knob. On fitness, right? We saw the before and after photo. I told you. I I tweeted I think I texted you two years ago. I go, I go, I'm gonna become a fitness influencer this year. Maybe I take that back. It's not, but like I the point being I was like, I'm gonna guilt myself into getting fit. Right. Uh the second thing is

You turned up the knob on finances, so you went from broke. Two. Uh never have to work again. Right. Like you broke to rich. Um, you went from, you know, single to, you know, married in and With somebody you love. You went from um

Uh, I don't know if you were having a lot of fun then, but like I think now you have like your lot of fun. Where you can like go and shoot mo you know, shoot guns, motorcycles, work out, you know, whatever you live in different places, different times of the year, right? You're crafting that, whatever lifestyle you're you're into right now. All right, so that's thirty three. What's the next holistic want for you? So that forty three is is it

Just More of the same? Like do the same thing. Do like enjoy this for the next ten years? Or is it There's another There's a there's another level you're you're looking to reach. Yeah.

Alright. Financially. I if I'm not worth at least a hundred and fifty million dollars by the age of forty, that would I would be considered that would be a miss on my goals. Now that's just what's the meme? Uh if I'm not worth 150 million dollars, you know, I'm gay and my parents die. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think that But like

Obviously that that's gonna have no impact on happiness, but that's just like the goal I have. Um Uh so that's that's it. I think well I By the way, why would you do something that has no impact on happiness? Why would you want to bench three hundred pounds? It's just cause. Well, but like some people do. Like

I I'cause I set goals and I hit them. That's why, because that's what I do. Like, you know, like I I don't know. I just I I thought that would be a cool goal and I think it's really fun. The the journey of like achieving that is cool. Like I think it's like uh you'd respect yourself. If you've pulled that off. Yeah, because I'm afraid that I can't do it. Therefore that's my n that's not my goal.

Yeah. Um so I don't know, like why you wanna why do you wanna Why do you want to be ripped? Like it's I don't know if it'll make you happy, but it's like it's just a cool little thing. Um And then um

I'll have kids, so that will change a thing. But what I really want is I want to own more property that can I want to own compounds. That's really what that's that's kinda like a goal is to have compounds. So you remember when we went to camp MFM and um we were at the like a basically a compound. I want a bunch of sick ones of those. And regardless if I'm there or not, I'd be like, Yeah, you guys go and use the compound. You could have it. Um that's really what I want. I care about physical space like that. I think that that would be a uh uh Something I'm looking forward to. But No, I don't really have that many goals other than those things. I just wanna live a dope life. I'm good at that.

Just just be a be a fucking man. Like I get I get pride out of being uh being a man and like Well I just Like look. I I am fearful of everything that everyone else is fearful of, and probably even more. I I would say maybe I'm even more sensitive to that. And so I think it's fun to be like, I'm afraid to have this hard conversation. Therefore, I must have this hard conversation with this person. And I feel like pride and like being a man and like

Honoring You know what I'm saying? I'm afraid to have this conversation. Therefore I must have this conversation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like You you know what I'm saying? Like it feels good to like

Uh be like, look, I'm brave. I can do it. I just get I get off on those things. Yeah, there's a part of me that's l a lot like you, and then there's a part of me that's not that way at all. But it's really funny just to see that. Just dialed up. To ten. And it's like, yeah, that's just how he lives. And that's what's important to him. Like you said, it's really like what did you say? It's really important to be a fucking man. Yeah. Like for me to be a fucking man. And I just found that That's hilarious. Well, you know, like someone's so different in that way.

Someone told me they're like real men. Don't change their opinion. based on every little like bit of emotion or insight that they have. And like I and I remember up into that, I remember at the hustle and you do you do this too. And and I do this all the time, where I'm running a company and something bad happens and I'm like, Oh, the company's ruined. Um, like Our quarterly plans are shit. Fire I've got to fire everyone. And then someone told me they're like, Men don't behave that way. And I was like,

Oh. You're right. Like I gotta be a man about this and I cannot let I cannot get emotional over this some of this stuff. I have to like like no there's not been meaningful data yet to show that I should change my opinion. This is just normal, like Yeah, you had Like Forty percent more jewelry.

twenty percent more uh tint on your glasses and eighty percent more of an accent, you could be Andrew Tate. You're just like a few tweaks away, dude. You're like A sh I'm like making this dish. I test the sauce.

A little umami, a little bit more solid. Eastern European maybe need a little bit of that. By the way. Little more jewelry, little man man jewelry. You could be Andrew Tate. I'd call about Andrew Tate as having he was the

Like it was a breakout year in two thousand twenty two. And then I read about what his um Uh Wha what he's accused of doing and like some of the evidence. And then I saw like a video where he admitted it. Do you see the video where he admitted it? No, well he admitted it. He like talks about how he manipulates these girls into being on webcam and how he like he just says horrible shit.

I wanna say that That pick It's sort of like Time magazine making Hitler the person of the year in nineteen thirty eight. Like they do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like two years before World War Two. Hitler was Times person of the year. Are you serious? I swear to God. Yeah. I don't know what year it was. Time magazine Hitler person of year. Let's find out what year it was. Uh 1938. Yeah, I was right.

uh nineteen thirty eight, he was times person of the year because he came in power and he like made a lot of change, but like What I want to say. What a sick reference by you just now to draw that analogy and nail the year and talking about a magazine and work that was Dude, because like Chef series, that was wonderful. Because yeah, g by the way, Google it. You can see the picture. There's like a picture of him on Time Magazine when he was person of the year. You can be breakout of the year and also a piece of shit. And I wanna say Andrew Tate, breakout person of of the year.

Huge piece of shit. You gotta go and see what this guy says. Now also The thing about pieces of shit. You could be ninety percent all right. And ninety percent of the things that you say can be like, Oh yeah, that's a really good point. You've just inspired me to go work out.

And but ten percent of it could be horrible. And because of that, I dislike you. And that's kind of what he does. I'm like Yeah, that's a great line. You're right. Oh, great. Let's empower men to exercise and have confidence. Ooh. But any time you use the and then someone's race I'm out.

You know? I actually don't know if he said that, but like anytime I hear like the Jews or The blacks. I'm like, Yeah, I'm out, dude. I'm not on board with that. So this is officially the bro episode or the bromance episode. We did Semi glutide and the weight loss get shredded part. We did.

South Park creators as Billy of the as as Billy of the Week. We did uh Sam's you know therapy session slash me sucking up to Sam where I gassed him up. Um we did be a fucking man as uh as Sam's internal monologue and I think this is the bro episode, the bromance episode. I hope uh By the way, we said something the other day we were like, you know, to our four female fans Um thank you for coming. We it's like

Uh at every Indian wedding, for some reason, my mother in law, she has to give a speech where she thanks individually everybody who came. From India. 'Cause there's like just like it she's like, they came so far. I have to Say Thank you. This

Auntie for coming. Stand up, please. And everybody And then she says, And this person came also from so far. Stand up, please. And it's like the worst speech you've ever seen. That's how we are with our four female fans, where we're like, Thank you, Ashley. You are still here. We so so so appreciate it. Um

Sorry about the be a fucking man part earlier. That was probably boring and or offensive. Um but thank you so much. And so they they DM'd us uh after we made that joke on the last spot and they're like, hey, female fan here. Um you know, whatever, I love it. And so I hope we just didn't lose them after this episode. We did. This was not the bro podcast. Everything we said. That's good, regardless of who you are.

Be a fucking man, change it to be a fucking woman. You're all right. Alright, we're out of here. Before we get canceled, let's get let's leave.

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