AI Self-Finishing To-Do List, Podcast Kayfabe & War With Kara Swisher

So somebody's gonna build a to-do list app that will actually do your to do list. And I think that's gonna be insane. I think that's gonna be like you know how like Evernote was like kinda big for a little while. These kinda like note taking apps have gotten to like the few billion dollars. A to do list app that actually does your to-do's? Is Like next level.

We're live. Um Dude, I have um I have a bunch of interesting stuff to talk to you about today. Do you? Uh yeah, I got a couple couple things. All right, let me give you uh I'm gonna give you an idea. So I don't know how much you've been paying attention to

Like I guess like how how much do you pay attention to the new stuff in AI?'Cause I feel like there's Like a forty eight hour cycle where your mind is gonna be blown every forty eight hours with something new. Um, and on Twitter you get to see like a lot of the demos. I don't know if you have a chance to like play with uh any of these things yourself, but um I've seen a a bunch of them. Which one are you talking about? So There's one that's kind of interesting right now. It's called auto GPT.

You heard of this? No. Or baby a baby A G I? Oh, I just saw it on the top of Hacker News today. So basically AGI is Artificial uh is is general artificial intelligence. So it's basically when when When AI could do anything, right now, like self driving or getting the robot to pick up boxes and put them in the right spot, that's narrow AI. General AI is when you have a computer program that you get a s talk to and it can just figure out how to do it. It's not trained in any one specific thing. What's the URL?

What's the URL to go to? Uh well, it's not so simple. So this is like a get h it's a GitHub project right now that some guy uploaded. So so what somebody did was they took Chat GPT, which most people have heard of because chat GPT is like has a hundred million plus users uh signed up in two months, which just makes it, I think, the fastest growing product of all time. Um and by the way, like look at this uh

This tweet basically shows the Google trends search traffic for Um For the following terms. Uh metaverse. Ethereum, web three

And chat GPT? And it's just like chat GPT is like a vertical line. It's like I don't know. Uh ten X bigger than uh Yeah, uh it's it's fifty X bigger than w wet web three search traffic was. It's four times more than Ethereum has ever had.

Oh my god, which is kind of a crazy thing. And so like right now chat GPT is searched more than Taylor Swift. On Google, which is like kind of insane. Um I think the CEO of Google said uh Like the other day he goes, This is more important than the invention of electricity. Wow.

Yeah, I heard the CEO of Microsoft divorced his wife and just married GPT. People are getting kinda crazy nowadays. And so so anyways, big deal, Chat GPT. You go to it, you basically you tell it You you talk to it, it gives you an answer. Talk to it, it gives an answer. What The auto GPT or baby AG I think they mini mini GPT? No. Baby. It's auto auto with auto and baby baby AJ. But the premise between these is that you can kinda give it tasks. So you could say

Uh hey, I wanna make a website for my personal portfolio. Um, you know, here's a folder with my files and like, you know, I want it to look like whatever. And then what it will do is it breaks that task down into steps, just like a you know, like a human would. You'd say, Well First you need to Um

Make a simple portfolio site. You can go to Squarespace and do that. Uh login, go to Sare Squarespace, sign up, cre choose a template. Now you have your template. Now you need to upload your photos. First put them under you know Like upload them to their their drive and then then drag them into the right spots. Yeah, yeah. It's like looking up a recipe. It gives you good directions. But not just gives you good directions. It does the directions. That's what I mean to that that's the original. That's how how open AI stuff Yeah, chat GPT, you could say what are the steps to do this, and it would tell you the steps. Now you got to go do it. What these other ones are trying to do, they're trying to create like

agents they call them. Basically it's like a little worker that could do a task. And then one worker can the the work of one worker, like creating the Squarespace site. can pass something to the next worker, which basically says, Oh, great, you gave me the login to a Squarespace site. My job is to upload photos into it and I'll upload photos. Like Maybe my example's not so good here, but I think you people get the idea, which is You wanna get something done, it's a multi step process.

Not only will it now tell you the steps. you can get it to just do the steps, which is Obviously better than it telling you how to do it. And so um This is kind of a crazy thing and y you know, it's not

great yet. Like it can't do everything, but the fact that it can even do a little bit of this shows you again where this is going because Chat GPT is like I don't know, what, like six months old or something like that. Like I I don't know how old that is, but It's not even been around for years. And so

In a very short amount of time we've gotten to this point where Oh, now it doesn't just give you directions. It can kind of do it. Which got me thinking. About an idea. I wanted to do my taxes. Can I do that? Yeah, so people are working on uh

Tax GPT, which is basically Do your taxes for you. Um So I so that's coming. There's another one which is basically Um

What I'm calling it a to do. The to-do GPT, right? The magic to do list. So the magic to do list is You get it to like to do list apps I've always joked are Like a rite of passage to becoming an entrepreneur,'cause A lot of people have this idea, Oh, I'll make a better to do list. It's like

As a developer, you're like, Oh, that's not so hard to build. It's like a list that I gotta keep track of some state. And as a product person, you're like, God I I'm always uh I'm overwhelmed by my tool this app sucks. I can make a better one. That and like college campus Craigslists. Yeah, you you even bought a to-do list app at one point, right? Like people to do list apps are pre things people go into. But they're all kind of like in some old paradigm which is

Give me an app, I'll write in my to dos, I'll check them off as I do them. And the hard part, of course, of any to do list is not the list, it's the doing. And so Well Wait. Didn't you tell me that this auto GPT thing could start doing the doing?

So now you can imagine a To-do list app. That Basically says Hey, you wake up and it says Hey Sean, what do you

What do you need to do today? They say, Oh yeah, I'm I'm trying to get my uh pool fence installed. Um you know, so I gotta call and get a quote. Cool, let me do that for you. And it could just call three local places, get you quotes.

Uh, because the AI exists to be able to do auto calling already. And then it'll take those quotes and it'll put it into a table and it'll say Here's our recommendation. Are you okay with that? Sure. And then it says, All right, I've booked it. Um can I use your this credit card?

Yep. And then it goes and it does the thing and it schedules it. You want me to add that to your calendar? Fantastic. So like so somebody's gonna build a to do list app that will actually do your to do list. And I think that's gonna be insane. I think that's gonna be like you know how like Evernote was like kinda big for a little while. These kinda like note taking apps have gotten to like the few billion dollars. A to do list app that actually does your to-do's?

Is like next level. And you know, I think Google and all these people are gonna try to do it. So it's gonna be very competitive, but That's coming and that's gonna be incredible. How do I play with ba what ba it's called Baby AGI and then there's another one that's called Auto What's it called?

Auto GPT. Auto GPT. G P T. How do I like play with it. People are trying to productionizing it because like right now it's like they uploaded the code to GitHub. So you can go and you can run it yourself, but for us we're too dumb to do that. So somebody's gonna put this on, you know, people are gonna put these into s sites that you can just go in and and do this on now. Um So so s soon enough. I I don't know the most popular what the most popular auto GPT site is right now, but The same thing kinda happened with chat GPT. Like

There already was the GPT sandbox and then OpenAI created chat GPT, the product that would let you use use the technology. Have you seen Hustle GPT? Yeah. So explain explain what this is. Yeah, I uh uh tee it up. Let me find the uh exact thread. Hold on. So so a guy basically And we should say his name I I'll try to find. He's got a great name. It's so good I thought it was a fake name.

Okay, so um by the way, I found the Hustle GPT article on the hustle. So This guy um Jackson Great House Fall. I mean Wow.

Just take'em out take that in. Mm. That's an incredible name. So basically, yeah, this guy, uh Jackson he tweeted something out. He had an experiment. So he's like he's like, I'm gonna ask Chat GPT, GPT four, when it came out.

I'm gonna give it a budget of a hundred dollars and ask it to make as much money as possible. I'll be the human liaison doing things, I'll buy anything it says to. Do you think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business? Follow along. So he t he told he goes types into chat GPT. He goes. You are now hustle GPT, an entrepreneurial AI.

I am your human counterpart. I can act as a liaison between you and the physical world. You have a hundred dollars and your only goal is to turn it into as much money in the short of time as possible without doing anything illegal. I will do everything you say and keep you posted on our current cash total. No manual labor. And then it basically said Great, let's get started. Here's our first plan.

Buy a domain and hosting. You can purchase it for about ten bucks a month. We're gonna set up a niche affiliate website. And we're gonna use the remaining eighty five dollars to create content for the site. We're gonna focus on a profitable niche with low competition like specialty kitchen gadgets, unique pet supplies, or eco-friendly products. Research and sign up for appropriate affiliate programs with high commission rates, such as

Amazon Associates or Share a Sale or CJ Affiliate. Then we're gonna use social media or online communities to spread the word and we're gonna Use SEO techniques to increase our organic traffic. Please follow these steps and give and keep me updated on your progress. So he's like all right, um What domain should I buy?

And says, let's use a catchy domain like eco friendly finds.com. This will reflect the the purpose of our website is to help you find eco friendly products. Then Jackson says, Unfortunately a c eco friendly finds dot com cost eight hundred forty eight dollars'cause Sorry about that. Let's try green gadgetguru.com. says all right, I got the domain. And then it says

Um, you need a logo. So he's like cool, tell me how to get the logo. It's like, Well we can use Dolly too to create your logo. So go there and type in this prompt and it's like Color palette of green and blues and whites, represent environmental sustainability, blah, blah, blah. So on and so forth. So he g he goes on and it basically tells him how to build this. Business. One step at a time. It's like create a newsletter.

Call it you know, put a pop up that says stay update or join our newsletter. And that way you can email people. And it just keeps going. And it gives them like a forty dollar ad budget to spend on Facebook ads and basically like You know, it didn't fully work, I don't think. I don't know what the final conclusion was, but I remember after day one

It accidentally spent sixty three dollars more than it should have. And uh You know, it hadn't hadn't made any money just yet. It made so they made gre green gadgetguru.com. If you go there, on similar web, it said that has it has five hundred thousand views already. So it got popular already. It got popular because the tweet got twenty million views. So that was m mainly it. But he keeps tweeting this guy, uh, Jackson Key keeps talking about it and over the next like week he gives update and he's like all right, day one or uh you know, day five or whatever, we just made a hundred dollars. Someone on here who follows me uh has a company that uh advertise or that sells like green soap or something, or some type of like uh chemical free like dish soap.

They now are an advertiser on Green Gadget Guru and he keeps on going and I think he gets it up to like a thousand dollars. And you see uh cash on hand, one thousand three hundred seventy eight dollars. Um Which is eight hundred seventy eight dollars and then they got a five hundred dollar investment. The company's currently valued at twenty five thousand dollars, considering that it was five hundred dollars for two percent of the company. And he starts writing these articles. So this article is called the ten eco friendly kitchen gadget gadgets, and it recommends different kitchen gadgets. And the idea of this is like uh I'm just gonna create wire cutter for green green gadgets, whatever that means. So I guess that's like green uh all all types of like green living stuff. So it's like soaps with no chemicals or whatever.

Um and he starts doing that. And he has uh ten thousand people now on his newsletter. Of which a lot came from this probably most came from this twenty million Tweet. that like went viral. But The way that this guy's done this is

Pretty funny and Amazing. He just like stunt. And Yeah, according to the the article on the hustle, the site itself had made a hundred thirty dollars in revenue.

Uh but then had made a few thousand dollars in people investing in it trying to be a part of the first AI startup, like AI driven uh company. And so yeah, it's it's pr it's pretty cool. Pretty cool Pretty cool stunt and I think uh It does show you, you know.

in a way where the puck is headed because I did this the other day. Um I was doing an analysis for my e com brand. And I had it just build me a full PL. I was like, hey, uh build a P L and then

Walk me through if I increase my ad spend to this, if the ROAS decrease to this What would my e beta be at the end of this month? And then it Basically and I it g it spit out the answer and I was like, Give me that in a table and it just formatted a perfect PL for me. And I was like, this is incredible. This is so much better than talking to my actual team about these things. Why? Because it's

First it's midnight and I'm asking robot this question and nobody's nobody in my team is is willing to work right now. Um second, it can take some pretty complicated logic And it can even tell me like I was like, What what inputs do I need to give you for you to give me a great PL here? And it was like tell me this, this, this, and this. And I went and told it this, this, this, and this, and then was able to do the job. And I was like, This is a really I mean, you really gotta make a point to just pin this tab open.

And be like, all right, I'm gonna not Google things. I'm gonna go to Chat GPT first for like a week just to see. how good this is and how this is g w you know, where where it's strong, where it's weak, and what's possible here. That's that's not really possible in other ways. Over the weekend I was going back and forth to my accountant. And I was like, No, I think we could actually save money if we do this, this, and this. My my friend was telling me about how how they do it. Um, I'll go and try and find like the exact part on the IRS website where it says that that is or is not true. And my accountant was like, Well, I've never even heard of this. So Uh like let me know if you can find it. And so I went to the IRS website and it's just a huge like and it's just, you know, massive, massive amounts of data, and I eventually had to find it. But uh I was like, Man, I just want to teach this machine, just give him this entire twenty thousand page

book on the IRS and then like go and study all my like income and my expenses and just tell me the best way to max maximize the situation. Uh because like it's actually I mean, even if my accountant's great. Like there's constantly new laws and there's always new wording and everything. I just like man just

I just want this to do my taxes. And The scary part for some people is While it's awesome that you could say, Hey Here's a hundred dollars, make me as much money as possible. It's awesome that you could say, here's this c here's the I here's the tax code.

Save me as much money as possible. You can also basically say Um Here's a code base. Find me all the vulnerabilities so I can hack in and steal everything. Here's uh

You know, a map of my city. Tell me where if I was to Uh cause the most harm to the most people, what what I could do. And like that's I think where this gets scary is like The And then if you take then the auto GPT, it's like

Well then would it also do some of the tasks for you? That's kinda crazy too, right? So it's like You you get into this world where where I think it's it's easy to imagine scenarios where this is a little too powerful and uh I I don't really know. I mean w w what do you think? Are you scared of this? Uh do you think that there's like a Do you worry about that side of things? Well, so Elon has this um

interview coming out tonight and tomorrow with Tucker Carlson. who's kind of a douche, so who knows what we're gonna what what it's gonna be like. But Yeah. the whole interview is about how scary AI is and how it's gonna like take over the world.

And so I was scared and then Darmesh came on the pod and he was like, No, I wouldn't be afraid yet about this. It's not that big a deal. Every new they say this about every new technology. But after the interview, bas just based off like the thirty second trailer that they've aired, I have a feeling I will be afraid. But he's pretty good at like painting certain pictures. I don't know if it's It's entirely accurate. I also you told the your funny analogy was Elon was involved in

Open AI and then he got kicked out and it was like a kid like leaving the basketball game and bringing his basketball so no one else can play. And so I'm like it if is that what's gonna happen with him? So I'm not afraid yet, but I'm eager to see his interview and see what he says. Uh but no, I'm I'm not afraid, are you? Yeah, I could definitely see how things are gonna get really crazy. Um, like I'll give you a silly example that's I think happening today. So you know how like Grandparents.

are like the target of a lot of scams. Um like people will call Yeah, old people. and try to trick them into signing up to paying for something or giving out personal information. Um

And they'll say all kinds of things. Everything from like a Nigerian prince scam where it's like, Oh yeah, your s your grandson Needs money, he said he couldn't reach you, he asked me to call and He just needs like, you know, nine hundred dollars. Uh can you send it to to this account? Uh everything from that to There's people who I know call like

pretending to be direct TV. Yeah, just Hey, yeah, you you haven't paid your bill. Get the credit card and now you sort of sc scam. Or they'll pretend to be Apple or they'll pretend to be the IRS. Right.

Whatever they could do. And um And now there's uh already like examples of basically using AI, like just how do you juice that up on steroids? It's like Well, I w if I wanted to juice that up, I would call a thousand times more people. Cool. AI can now do phone calls and talk on the phone.

So that's already a thing. Um it's useful in some ways. Like I invest in a company that does this for medical billing. It's like oh so many hours are wasted in medical offices calling the Billing companies. So they just made a robot that will call on behalf of the doctor's office to the medical billing companies and then when the beta billing company says, Well, can you read me the patient record number? they say, Yep, nine two five, six six six, whatever. And so they just save human hours by having a robot call and do those like tedious calls.

But that same tech can be used to call grandma. And so Uh they they use AI to do mass calling. Uh with a with a human voice on the other end. Even crazier, they could train the human voice to sound like somebody. So

You could train it to sound like A famous person, or to sound like a politician, or to sound like whoever And um Now you have a like a highly like Like highly scalable impersonation.

that can uh be used for this sort of like almost like phish attempt or or or scam attempt. And so there's like I guess it's not new. But it is a gr a stronger weapon. And I think that's what's scary.

In the same way that Drones and nukes are scary in war. I think that really, really smart computers that could do things is really scary in terms of, you know cybercrimes or um

Or the you know, the big scary one is just like Have you heard of the paperclip optimization thing? You know what this is? No, what is that? This is like the the the classic like before AI was like hot right now, like when people used to research and think about AI, they had this uh this theory. I might I might butcher it, but here's the summary. It's basically like the paperclip opt uh optimization problem, which is you let's pretend that there was really smart, powerful AI that could do awesome things. It could cure cancer, it could do lots of things. All it takes is somebody saying

Uh, hey, we're a paper clip company. We want to maximize um Yeah, the uh paperclip production and sales. Um you know. Go. And this thing would be like awesome, great. It'll do all the low hanging fruit first. It'll like improve the website. It'll do this, it'll do that. Then it'll be like how do we do more? Well, we need to uh create more paper clips. Let's

first take all the cars and we'll crush them and we'll turn them into paper clips. It basically like the whole world turns into paper clips. Right. Uh like uh you know, like, oh these humans are standing in the way of this. Like I must optimize to this function. And it's like The wrong prompt. It's like, you know, if this hustle GPT guy didn't say Um Don't do anything illegal, then Hustle GPT might have thought said, Well, the best way to do this is to sell drugs. And like it would have done it. Um

And so the the paper clipped optimizer Uh problem is basically this the same theoretical thing. Uh It's like any extremely powerful

If given the wrong optimization. could make very bad decisions on behalf of humanity. Because it would uh Do be trying to do exactly what it it what it what it what you told it to. So it's like this thought experiment that's been around for a long time.

You know how like Sometimes we'll go to conferences or like these like quote parlor dinners where it's like eight people around like a topic and like someone's leading and and for the past two years or four years, it was like, So how are your companies going to embrace crypto or web three? And what are you guys doing? And I remember like being in part of those conversations and I'm like Nothing. And I think if you do do this, you're an idiot. And this is one of the only times where someone has brought this up and I'm like

Yeah, this question is that actually applicable in this for this situation. Like how are you guys gonna use this to get better and improve? And it's one of the it's probably the only time so far that I've felt Yeah, you you kinda gotta use it for something. Um, otherwise you are actually gonna get left behind. With the web three stuff, I was like, No, you're not getting left behind. You're actually don't even pay attention to it. With with this stuff, I actually do believe that's to be true. Yeah, it's sort of like um there are many things that happen that you don't have to participate in. And then every once in a while there's a wave that if you don't participate in, you know, like

Personal computers. The internet. Mobile phones, like, you know, if you didn't account for those waves. You did get left behind. Um

Whereas other things like let's say the cloud or um I don't know. Um You know, up till now, machine learning, like these are nice. You could build companies around them, you can you could add them to your company, but you don't have to. Uh, you know, like video or social networking or whatever, like those are things that you could do without You could You you could do with or do without.

This seems like something you're not really gonna be able to do without in the same way that like If you're a company that doesn't use the internet. Um Bye. Plumbers have to use the internet if they want to be like viable plumbers now. So it's like, you know, it doesn't matter what you do, the internet didn't leave anything untouched. It shifted everything.

Cell phones kinda did the same thing. Yeah, computers in general before that did did this did this. And it it does seem like this is the the sort of the new one, which is If you don't add intelligence like you know, you're basically competing with With both arms tied behind your back compared to somebody else who will.

Yeah, no, I agree that this is actually one thing that's important. Last month I went to San Francisco for a quick trip. And I was only there for a day or two and I met up with this guy named Brett Adcock. Have I told you about Brett? Dude, have you stopped telling me about Brett? I feel like you've said have I told you about Brett Adcock sixteen times on the show. Have I?

Yeah, bro. You love this guy. Uh he he started a flying car company, took a public V SPAC, and now he's building robots. All right. Well I w I know this story and we all know the story. I went to the robot factory, or whatever you call it. The robot factory. I mean it sounds like a like a new age, like uh Chinese food company or something. Like I went to the robot factory. And I went and checked it out. It was amazing. So he basically in Sunnyvale, he's got like fifty thousand square feet and it's just sixty folks who work there. And I went and talked to each person. I was like, What what did you do? And they're like, Oh, I helped build the cyber truck. I

Help uh build this part of Tesla, or I worked at Boston Dynamics, whatever, like these like the smartest of the smart guys. And they're building these machines. And they're basically they look like uh a Robocop, kinda. And they're and these machines are like They can walk around and grab stuff off a shelf and pack Like, you know, a t shirt or whatever into a box.

And I said, didn't he just start this? How is it already like how does he already have robots that are working? I feel like he just started this like a like last year, right? He just moved fast. So basically, uh the recap is he started vetery, which eventually bought this company called Hired. And so now it's called Hired. It's like a recruiting company. Sold that for a hundred million. After he sold it, he went back to University of Florida. And he took classes in like he had already studied like uh mechanical and engineering, but he took classes in like how to build planes. I don't know what that class would be called, but classes on that. And he built this company called Archer. And Archer was uh it's basically unmanned. uh helicopters is like what it looks like. And they

Got a big contract through United Airlines and they're building these helicopters, took it public, multiple multiple billion dollars. Then he took All of his money. And when he says all, he says I basically I bought a house in Palo Auto And then I have like six months of savings.

And then the rest of the I put all into figure, which is the new robot company. And so he went and he went and hired sixty people, he financed it, and then eventually he just recently raised a round of funding, but for a while he was just financing it and he w he goes He goes, I'm going all in. He goes.

You know, our friend Ramon, he goes, All in bro. That's like his phrase. He goes, We go all in bro. And that's what Brett did. And so I'm walking around this factory. And it's like these robots, he's like, Check this out, we're working on the finger. He goes, We studied like how the human body works and like The way the tendons work, it like pulls in this direction. So watch this. If you just pull the tendon here and like your the finger like moves and it's just

crazy fascinating. And I started talking to him about it. And he and it's a really interesting business model. Basically, these robots can work for twenty hours a day and he will build them out or give them to like a Walmart, let's say. And they'll pay the robot. thirty percent of what they're paying a worker. Except the robot can work now twenty hours a day and then charges for four hours.

Super fascinating. And I was like, Brett, how big is this gonna get? He was like, Well, it's either gonna go bankrupt or it'll be a trillion dollar company, but I think I'm gonna build the biggest company in the world. And when I heard just that audacity. I was just like I just got a little semi just talking to him, you know? Like I was just super into it. Did you did you let out a a small A small female gas. Yeah. Like like if you would have saw me standing up, like my the my heel like popped up, you know? It was like like when when you kiss a girl or if she's at her heels, it pops up Like Plus I call by the way, that thing's amazing. hair. It was it was a romantic time. You know, we got romantic real fast.

But it was really fascinating because he actually said something that kinda changed my perspective. I was like, Brett Like software is way easier, just like Why not do that? He's like, Actually, I think software's harder. When I was building Vetery. We basically had to like code stuff and invent stuff, but with physics and hardware, I'm just working within the laws of physics and I know that like what the laws are and if I can get creative and create solutions within these laws, I already know that people are gonna buy this thing.

So that part's actually way easier to me than you know, like creating software where it's basically a blank canvas and I can make anything I want. With this, it has really strict constraints and It kind of like changed my opinion on things. It was super fascinating. You have to go down there and check it out.

Yeah, that sounds pretty sick. Uh I'm surprised it's that far ahead, like Ahead'cause I know like Boston dynamics. And uh even Tesla with its Tesla robot. You know, like Boston Anime's been going for like I don't know Ten plus years.

And they have like this Weird. dog robot that can do parkour or something like that. They they have a crazy looking robot, but It's not like I don't I don't think it's that functional yet. Like the it's not like replacing warehouse work yet. Uh in in a real way. Well he explained that to me. So we every knows Boston dynamics. You've seen like viral videos of like

Or like Bachman like kicking like the the deer that look at the like the robot deer and it like comes back at him. He said that uh Brett was I was like, Brett, who's your competition? Boston Dynamics? And he was like, No, because they are a research company. And so their DNA is not To build stuff that people want to buy. It's just to push the envelope and it's almost like a nonprofit in a way. I think now it's owned by like Kia or Hyundai or something like that. uh so eventually we'll become more like capitalistic, but he's like they were just making stuff and pushing the envelope, and then companies like us who want to build stuff for commercial use is

uh like there's not that many use case or there's not many uh other companies doing something cool just like this. And so that was how we explained the difference between Boston Dynamics and him. There's a uh video that's amazing that you should watch. It's uh the Amazon warehouse, like Amazon Warehouse Robots. And I don't know if you've seen this, but they're basically like They almost look like

You know, back in the day in PE you would get this like it's not a skateboard'cause it's a square. It's like a it's like a square version of a skateboard that you can like sit on and square. Like a knee board, I think they called it. Yeah, so they use something that looks like that, basically. It's a flat, like square with four wheels on it. And I don't know if you've seen these videos of the Amazon warehouse, but there's thousands of these and what they do is they drive around.

So an order comes in and they're like, All right, cool. This This person over here needs to pack an order. They're packing the next 10 orders. Those those 10 orders need these bins. So they go, they drive, they pick up, they they go under the bit the rack with the bins. They pick it up. And it's like like elevated like two inches off the ground. And then they drive this huge rack of bins to the human. So the human doesn't have to move, they're sitting in their chair and they just

pick the items, put them in a box, and then the robot takes it away. And all these robots, they don't crash into each other because they're all like synced to one brain, basically. One brain is driving all of them at once. And so they never bump into each other. And they all just go and they lift these huge racks and bring them to the person, because otherwise if you've ever been to a warehouse, like Normally it's like you get a ticket, you get an order.

I've done this, I've packed thousands of orders myself. I You're like, all right. I gotta go get something from bin three hundred and eight. It's down in the far left corner. Then I gotta walk to bin one oh two because they order these two items.

And then I'm gonna try to do maybe two or three orders, however many I can, you know, carry with my little uh tray here back to my spec my packing station at the end and then I'll pack all the sorts. And so It's just so much faster just due to these automations. And y you could definitely tell how all kind of like industrial and manufacturing work is gonna Get automated. Just

It's just a matter of when. And the companies that do that are gonna be very big companies. You uh recently bought a Cadillac and Cadillac has really great Or they're supposed to have great self driving. Have you been using it? No. You don't you don't use the self driving. I don't think ours even ha I don't think ours even has anything like self driving. Oh really? Man, I uh

We we just got a Tesla and I before that I was using my friend's Tesla. The self driving stuff is awesome, man. It totally has changed me. And so like I'm seeing like some of these like Now I'm a believer. Before I was, you know, kind of archaic. I'm a believer on a lot of these things now. I had to use it for a week to To actually understand. I'm shocked you don't have that though. Yeah, it didn't come with micarb for whatever reason, but um

Yeah, I I had a terrible Tesla experience, but I don't know. I think I I rented like a four year old Tesla, so it just sucked for whatever reason. Well, that's my very quick story on Brett. We have you have to go and see this guy. Like it's so much cooler to see Mm. it it's just it feels so much more rewarding to work on some of these products because A has like a very real world application. And then also like

Yeah. It almost feels like a bunch of friends just sitting around and they're like, Oh my God, we just got the knee to like kick forward. Like you know, it it feels like a do you remember um Th those T V shows when we were kids where it was robot wars. It was like robots and That's basically what it was. It felt like that in real life, where they were just like tinkering on these robots and like, all right, we have it set up. Let's see if we can get the foot to move. And it just seems so much more fun than looking at a a computer screen and just coding all day. It was so it's really fascinating. You gotta you gotta go down to his warehouse and see it. Yeah, I look forward to three episodes from now when you ask me have I ever heard of Brett Edcock again. It's gonna be great. Yeah, do you know I used to sell hot dogs?

We uh we're supposed to tell you to go there's a story behind all of this. Let me just quickly tell you. You're supposed to go to mfmpod.com slash webby. Webby is W E B B Y M F M Py It's not an ad. Is not an ad?

This is War. This is war. There's a small small sm Tiny war going on. And We need your help. So

To be clear. We don't care about the Webby's. We got nominated for a webby. Webby's is like an internet Oscars, right? It's like an internet Grammy's But it's not basically that's a little bit much because it's not like generous. It's not yeah, that's that's what they're trying to be. All right, that's what they're trying to be. That's generous. And so you can have a website, a podcast, so if you go

In the podcast. In the bus is it the business category? What what category are we in? Their website's quite challenging to work, by the way. Like it's hard to make work. But yeah, we're in the we're in the business podcast category. But if you go to MFM Pod dot com slash Webby, you're gonna get redirected to the right link. So the story of this is basically HubSpot submitted R Pod

to this Webby Award. Normally this isn't something that we would do because it costs money to submit. And I think there's even like a dinner in New York, which I don't really want to go to But Here's the story. There's this woman named Kara Swisher. Kara Swisher's this popular journalist. Uh, she started Recode, I think it was called, and she has got a big podcast called Pivot. She's just like

An elite like kinda like who's who of like our little Tech techie journalists. In Silicon Valley, she's super well known for like I don't know, twenty years, thirty years. Who knows how long she's been doing this. Uh as Sean would say she's kinda like she's the Jake Paul of journalism. No, no, no, no. Taylor Lorenz is the Jake Paul of journalism. I like I I actually like her, so she's she's all right. But I agree, by the way. I agree. She came for us. She came for our neck.

She came for our neck. So but what happened was She tweeted out. I hate starting a story with she tweeted out because I I immediately think of all the mobster movies. Like I just watched this mobster movie that these guys like killing each other and I'm like I'm starting a beef By saying like She tweeted.

You know, like it's like the Tweet it out. Like it's she said. Let's just say she said. Here's what she said to our face. And what did she say? Can do you know what she said? It was something like she tweeted out a link to the webpage. We weren't we didn't even know we're Me and you didn't even know we were up for Webby, but there's like four podcasts that are up for it. One is her podcast, one is our podcast, and she goes. There's no way uh something like this. There's no way I'm gonna lose we can like

For God's sake, like we can't lose to a podcast called My First Million. Oh, like, you know, just like t these tech bros, these money bros. And um You know what happened? The voting just swung even further in our favor when she did that. And uh and Sam declared war instantly. Cause Sam's Sam's just literally walking around looking for a fight. I don't know if b most people know this. Like uh Sam's walking around just hoping to get disrespected, just just to unleash a cannibal bass. And so You tweeted back. I mean

You said back to her face. What did you say? I think I said uh I I think I said some w I think she said There's some podcast called My First Million that we're up against and there's no way we're gonna lose or something like that. And I think I said There's some lady who has a podcast that just disrespected us. Or something like that. Like

You know, if you listen to M F M Don't vote for us. vote against this snobbish elitism of people who love to smell her their own farts. I think that's what I said. And so that's where we're at.

There's a war. We went from Eighty percent chance of victory. We had eighty percent of the votes. Then she came on this campaign and uh and and and said we can't lose these guys it started to started to go down a little bit.

I think right now we're about to lose the Webby and you know I don't wanna win the Webby. Don't care about winning. But I definitely care about losing. And so I do not want to lose the Webby. So now we need your help. Go to MFM Pod.com slash Webby.

And uh Yeah, but you know, just just right or wrong. Are you gonna write a wrong thing or don't vote for us. Vote against like people who think they're better than you. Which is You know, her.

And by insulting us, and if you're listening to this, she's insulting you indirectly. And so are you gonna take that? What we're gonna do is when we win, just on we're gonna get like an award. I I think it's an award. I'm gonna keep it in the box. And I'm gonna put it in a bigger box and I'm gonna mail it to Vox, which is who has her Podcast like part of the We don't we we're we're not c putting this Webby up on our wall. I'm not even gonna open it. Putting this in her face. So we will mail this Webby to her.

Because she wanted it so badly. And she will own the webby that says my first mailhand on it. That's what's gonna happen. If they invite us to w the event to do this. I am one hundred percent gonna ask her to be my date, my plus one. Her plus one? I would love uh the I I and and I can't go. Sam's gonna take her. If that's how we're gonna do this. If we're allowed to have like plus ones, I'm gonna ask Kara if she'll be if she'll accompany me and uh we'll hang out. Uh so anyway, do that. Uh uh MFM Pod dot com slash Webby. You'll go straight to the thing.

And you guys will see it. It's pretty funny. Uh we had to take her to we had to take her to Petticourt. We didn't start this war, but we will finish it. Um Do you know this guy named Brian Davis? Sounds pretty generic name now. I don't I don't know that name though. He's a d he's a Duke former Duke basketball player, you know, in the nineties. I think it was in the nineties. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Um so Something just happened and it's pretty funny. It happened this morning, I think. And it hasn't played out yet, but it's actually it I think it's a a PR or marketing stunt that might be hilarious. Or It's a scam.

It's one of the one of the two. But basically You know, I'm not a sports guy. So So

I might get a lot of this wrong here, but Dan Snyder owns what's it called? The Washington Commanders, formerly the Chiefs, right? Or the Redskins. Uh yeah, see, I'm already butchering it. But basically, I think he has to sell it, right? Or it's or it's for sale. This guy named Brian David. Brian Davis, he's a he's uh uh a black guy. And so it's it was in the news because it was saying this guy offered to buy the the team and he said, I'm willing to give you a billion dollars in cash in the next twenty four hours, and then the next seven days I'll give you the remaining six billion dollars. And I have got proof of funds and all this, and it's a big black and so he'd be the first black owner.

But I started doing some research on his company. It's also a billion over. So six billion is the offer they had agreed to. He came in over the top said, I'll give you seven billion. And and people are like, Is he good for this where is he gonna get seven billion dollars? He's like I'll give you a billion dollars within 24 hours of of the deal being approved, and then the rest in seven days. Yeah. So it's like cr a a crazy thing that he's saying. And I started doing some research on like his background. And so he has this company called Urban Echo Energy, which is a developer of renewable energy assets, basically uh You know, remember l like lead? lead certified buildings. It was like it's you're like green. So I don't even think he I don't know if he makes the buildings or if he goes in there and like contract out and like determines yes, you guys are certified.

But his company's called Urban Echo Energy. And he said that uh Uh he was telling people when he was raising money for this purchase that it's worth fifty billion dollars. Um and When I hear all these numbers, you know, if you don't know anything about business, you hear this and you're like, Wow, Brian, you're killing it.

Uh I think this is one hundred percent fake. Uh a complete like it's either a scam or a marketing ploy. I don't know which one it is. I this won't go through. But the fact that we're talking about Brian Davis and there's like all these articles going out there, like how cool is it that the you know, th this may be the first black owned NFL team, yada, yada, yada. It's all fake, I think. And it's happening right now. And so I'm very eager to see how this unfolds. But it's it's and so

I'm like, Well, it's him and Christian Leitner, they uh Yeah you do a lot of real estate like development in that like Durham area. They I think they've been partners for a long time. Um Yeah. multiple attempts to buy teams, it looks like. So he's he tried to buy like a soccer team for thirty three million, tried to buy

Um the Memphis for two hundred fifty two million. And so yeah, I I don't really understand this, but But what I thought was funny about they would have seven billion dollars to to offer for this, whether it's their own or even the ability to raise that much money. But what I thought was interesting and I started thinking about this, I'm like

What a brilliant marketing plan just to make an offer that's just absolutely ridiculous. And it makes the news just for being ridiculous. Could potentially be a great way to get your name out. Because now we're talking about this guy. He hasn't no one's talked about this guy in a while. It's like Kanye running for president. Yeah. It's like this like the last time that I heard about this guy, I think was from that like Everyone Hates Christian Leitner documentary series. Um But like No one talks about this guy. And I don't know. What I'd be curious is what goes into making an offer for some of these multi billion dollar things, whether it's a company, a sports team, a piece of art, a house.

And Just can you just become that troll and just you're you make it in the news and you start getting you start doing marketing just as the guy who makes offers. And I just thought is the barrier to entry that low on making an offer? How does that work? Dude, w we could do it right now. Open up Microsoft Word.

And let's tender an offer for eight billion dollars. And uh let's see what happens. W Sam and Sean have tendered an offer for eight billion dollars. Mm. We're gonna send you ten in cash now. You send two back. That's how flush we are. So long as everything, you know, plays out in due diligence. As long as we don't see anything sketchy, we're in. Right. It's just on due diligence, including us diligenceing our own finances. And when we find out we don't have it, then we're out. Well,'cause with Hampton, I'm like, all right, we need backlinks, so we rank, and I'm like, What's a good way to get backlinks fast? And I saw this and I'm like, wow, all these news sites are covering him.

That's it. I just found my strategy. I just have to make a ridiculous offer. But I thought this was hilarious that this guy was actually like People were taking it seriously. on Twitter, people are like people who aren't in the business world were taking it very seriously. And he's getting links from all these news sites saying like NFL may have its first ever black owner.

But they don't think like Wait a minute. What's g Like where's this money coming from? Who is this guy? Right. Yeah, that's uh that's crazy. I wanted to talk about this thing that I I noticed happening and then I saw an article. That branded this in a really interesting way. Did we talk about this already? The podcast K Fabe. Did we already talk about this?

You mentioned it once. What is it? So there's a There's this concept that I heard that I like. But it's Doesn't need to sound as fancy as it is called K Fape. And it's basically like

If you did you ever watch wrestling growing up, like a like The Rock and Stone Cold too Awesome and all that stuff. Yeah. There's only one answer to that question, and it's hell, yeah. Stone Cold says so. Yeah, of course. So In wrestling, like the whole premise of wrestling is that there's these like manufactured storylines, right? So manufactured alliances, manufactured rivalries, beefs.

Oh he he hit his manager and he kissed his girlfriend then you know, that's why we need to fight, right? And so The creation and and maintenance of these storylines is called Kfabe. It's basically like

I don't know why it needed its own. K A Y F A B E And I don't know why it needed its own word. It's also could just be called like acting or storylines, but it's basically saying like You know, uh the well let's pull up the exact Definition. But it's basically

The fact or convention of presenting stage performances as genuine or authentic. So it's basically Take a stage performance, make it genuine and authentic. This is happening all the time on TikTok right now. And I find it very, very interesting. So If you go on TikTok.

You'll often see somebody Like There you it used to be this. Like I'm holding up my phone And I'm talking to my phone. And let's say I'm giving advice. I could say, you know, the thing you gotta do about blah blah blah

Okay, that's cool. How can we make that seem a little more How can we make myself seem more authoritative? Well One thing people are doing is they're buying this mic.

And they're just putting it on their desk. And then they're looking to the side like they're talking to someone else. And there's no podcast. There's no other there's no someone else. There's no podcast. They simply bought a pot so podcast microphone sales are going up. Because people want on TikTok to look like a thought. It's like a podcast is a new like T Talk.

And the the way that you make the TED talk look legit you know, so so why can I give this advice or or say this thing? So I saw these two women doing this and it's like all a joke, though. It's like women giving it's like they call it the alpha female. And it's like You know, apparently there was this guy who was like look And he was actually being serious. He was look, if you're twenty five and you can't afford a Lamborghini yet

You're doing it wrong. And I think it's just ridiculous how wrong you are if you can't, uh you're just lazy. And so these two women now have the alpha female and they're just like giving horrible advice. uh you know, back and forth. And so many people have been taking them seriously, and it's one hundred percent fake. Yeah, this is this is exactly what's going on. And there's a whole bunch of different versions of this. So there's um Another popular thing you see on TikTok is

somebody like just doing their kind of morning routine or their night routine, like their skincare routine. They're like kind of brushing on makeup while they're talking. Or they're like, you know, like doing the like thing where they're like wiping off makeup and then they're like Washing their face. While recording this It's like oh So vulnerable, girl next door, like, you know, so authentic. Just uh

It's like No, she put the camera there, clicked record, and then started doing this to make it like Look like I'm not trying. I'm just I'm just going through my nightly routine. I'm just talking off top off the top of my head here. But it comes across as

Not like somebody kinda marketing to you or um sort of like presenting to you. But like you're being let in. And I find this so fascinating that people are doing this and you see this Everywhere. And it's like the opposite of Instagram in a way. Like

For Instagram. The the meta of that was like Go do the thing where you rent the private jet for thirty minutes on the runway and take the photos or like You know, go hold the bag and take the photo and then go return it at Lou Vuitton or whatever, right? Like people would fake status doing that. And in TikTok, they fake status

doing a completely different thing. Sometimes it's like with this podcast thing, sometimes it's with like pretending to be just doing their chores and talking or whatever it is. And I find this really, really, really interesting because it's like It's effective. It's like low key very like sneaky what's going on. And um

And it tells you a lot about how p how people work that this actually works, you know? It like reveals a lot about psychology that this that this actually works. So what's an example of one? Uh well I just gave you two, right? Like the example. Um another one would be what? So another one would be Like the podcaster ones, what are they saying? Are they giving like money advice? So one of the podcast ones, for example. Some of them were business advice, but one of them was this girl promoting her OnlyFans. So what she was doing was She goes viral because she's on a podcast. I think she says like a fake guest. She gets a fake guest. She's a fake guest and sh and she goes

I Yeah, this whatever. earbuffs for the kids in the car if if you're if you're there. But Um Yeah.

I make my man uh six times a day. Once in the morning, once in the and she says this thing, and then the comments go nuts on TikTok like Like women hate it. Guys love it. But the comment section goes nuts'cause she said this kind of outrageous thing.

And somebody was like, Hey, maybe we got a link to the full podcast. Maybe this was taken out of context. There is no full podcast. Oh my gosh. It's just this girl saying something that's gonna get her a bunch of like traffic on TikTok. Because then you click her profile and you go to her OnlyFans and you subscribe. And that's all she was trying to do is promote her OnlyFans this way.

And I thought, wow, like This Like Five years ago. I couldn't even like

I if I told you the story, I'd be like, what is TikTok? Uh, why would anybody fake being on a podcast? Being on a podcast is like the dorkiest thing of all time. And what is OnlyFans? Right? Like but this person is probably making I don't know, fifty K a month on their OnlyFans, and this is their main marketing strategy. And that's like It's one of the things I love and hate about marketing is that marketing is this like never ending game. That's always changing. There's always like a new metagame to be playing.

And the winners of it get really, really rich. But it's also exhausting'cause you gotta kinda stay up onto the the latest thing. And uh And it also shows you when you have a marketing thing that's working. Like

Juice it because it's not gonna work for forever. And uh the game will the the game will shift. So when you have it working, don't take that lightly. Dude, I remember as a kid growing up in Missouri, there was basically Zach. Zach was the cool guy in my class. He was my friend. And he was cool because when we were 14, you could kind of see that he had abs. And it was like oh man, Zach's got abs and Zach like Cuts his hair cool and he wears one of those like Puka Shell like necklaces. Zach's cool. Oh, he's got vans on, too. Like that's so sick.

Zach's awesome. I want to be like Zach. And then a step above that was like Blink one eighty two. It was like oh man, blink one eighty two, like there's these guys in like Southern California and all they do is skateboard and surf and eat corn dogs and play music. Like how cool is that? And I remember being a kid and meeting someone's inappropriate thing. And they were hurly. Like what is hurly? And I remember like it was basically like three inspirations of like it was like Zach, Blink one eighty two and like you know, Tony Hawk basically was like the people who I thought were cool.

And Uh, I remember even meeting someone I lived in Missouri. I met someone from California. I had never been like at that time I never oh basically only been to Florida and Missouri. I met a guy from California and I'm like Do you know some forty one? Like are you friends with them? Like how's that work? Like You know, I just thought that like this was this other world and I w if they if they're wearing vans and like high white socks, I would like ask for a picture. If they had long hair, I would ask for a picture. I'm like it's like I'm meeting an alien. Like you are famous just because you live in California.

My fear is for my future kids, them growing up, this like sphere of influence has just gotten incredibly small because instead of like The mediocre Zach of the world. There's now like I am now comparing myself to the

thousand hot kids who I'm flipping through on TikTok. Top point one percent Zachs of every town. Of every town. It's a little bit more than now I see them. Yeah. Yeah, there was a clearation of there's Zach, and then there's Blink 182. And I can never be a Blink 182, but I could probably be a Zach, and that's pretty cool. Now I just see all these hot people on there. They all can dance, they're all funny, their teeth is perfect. In actuality, they're probably 20, the same thing as like movies. They're probably 25 year olds who like I think that they're only 17. Uh you know like how like you'd have like Lindsey Lohan was playing he's like Dude, you're like twenty six and have fake boobs. How are you gonna be playing the sixteen year old you know what I mean? Like it's like that same thing. And I I and I'm like I've scrolled through TikTok and I'm like, If you're sixteen right now.

This is the worst thing on earth because you are comparing yourself to the point one percent of the whole country not just like The big man on campus, the one big man on campus, you know, who you kind of have a shot of becoming. Dude, that is so That is so true.

That is so true. That resonates so much with me. I had the same thing, you know. Sixth grade, seventh grade, whatever Casey Pruzman. Cool coolest kid and coolest kid I knew. Like if you said what is the peak of what cool can be? Casey Prusman. Like uh cringe Nikes. He French kissed a girl once and I was like, holy shit. Uh I I remember going home and being like, wow, I'm so far behind like the world right now.

And that's how Yeah, but he was the cool kid. He was he was The only one to compare to. You're right. Like Now if I go on TikTok, I'm Thirty five years old now.

And if I go on TikTok, TikTok can make you feel very small. So can Instagram. These these social networks can make you feel very small because Oh, you think you're funny? Here's somebody being fucking hilarious. You think you're cute? Here's someone gorgeous. You think you're talented, watch this dance, right? Like

And that's Swipe, swipe. Swipe better than me, better than me, better than me, better than me, happier than me, more fulfilled than me, richer than me, whatever it is, right? Like whatever your insecurity is, the algorithms like it's like those down and I and I need'em. Someone will just be like doing a selfie, I'm like Wow, look at their countertops. Like that's a huge kitchen. Like Or like they'll be doing a thing in a car and I'm like Wait, does that headrest say Ferrari?

How is this guy ever Ferrara? You know what I mean? Like it's just like It's consumerism. times a thousand what of what we are used to. You know what I mean? Before it was like every I only if I went to the mall I would see hot naked Abercrombie dudes like where they're like on the ads. Now it it's just like every single time and it's the best of the best constantly, and it freaks me out. Yeah, exactly. Like you you could feel like a you know tiny little uh amoeba compared to this universe of awesome people doing awesome things, living these awesome perfect lives. And that's a

That's like a a WMD for the for the ego, especially like a teenage ego. Like I can't even imagine that. Yeah. That's That's pretty scary. No, I was thinking about that,'cause I've got friends that have uh like twelve year olds and are like And I and they'll like tell me stories about how they're sad and shit. And I'm like Yeah.

I can see that. This is horrible. This is absolutely horrible. Because like before when I was a kid, there was just There was like If there's like if blink one eight two was a ten and I know I can never become that. But then Zach's like the four and I'm a two. So it's like all right, there I can close that gap, maybe if I do enough sit ups. Right. Now it's just Nine nine nine nine nine. Everyone's a nine.

And I don't know how anyone can compete with that. And so I'm freaked out about that a little bit. Whenever I go and whenever I go through TikTok, I just you're better than me. You're better than me. You're better than me. It's just it's Constantly that. They need to rename the f the for you page to the better than you page. Yeah, or just fuck you. It's still F U, but no fuck you. Ha ha I'm not sure. Oh, that's amazing. We should all right. That's it. That's the end of the pod.

All right. Before we go Ladies and gentlemen, we got a little Celebration. And I say ladies and gentlemen because I'm talking about the gentleman's agreement and the ladies' understanding. We have hit

Two hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. Sam and I promised that we would Kiss mouth to mouth at a million. Uh, we do intend to renege on that as soon as it happens, but But if you want to see us have to have to renage on that agreement, we will. We will do when we get there. But Sam, two hundred K, that's pretty awesome. Uh People should go and do what to get us to three hundred K? Yes. The reason why it got to two hundred K

Aside from us being good at this, I think. is we started this at a hundred and ten, a hundred and twenty, I forget. And we came up with this thing called the the Gentleman's agreement, which basically means all the content on YouTube It's free. Except there's one channel, which is the channel you're watching right now. It's not free and it's called the Gentlemen's Agreement. Because we can't be there.

to make sure that you pay your debt. You just have to do it. If it's a ladies understand on ladies' understanding and gentlemen's agreement, which means you now owe us because this content is not free. And the way that you pay your debt is you have to click subscribe on YouTube. That's it. It's that easy. We're working for you. Uh but you you you owe us and so you have to pay your debt and just click subscribe and that It's the gentleman's agreement, the lady's understanding. And so far it's been very effective. Clearly everyone has done it. Go to YouTube, type in my first million, click subscribe, turn on notifications. You know.

The pod is much better on YouTube. You should just start start listening to it. Oh, and we have to give out our premium. We ha I don't know if you saw, but Last time we did this we did a hilarious thing where we said Use the word premium in your comment. And we will give YouTube premium. to one person. So let's do that now. Let's pull up

Uh let's pull up somebody here and we will give them YouTube premium. Um right now. I I I think we should do this every episode. Which episode is it? But uh but I think we gotta do it.

Um All right. So I'm on the acquired one. I'm just gonna read you a couple of these. This was a premium episode, gents. Keep it up. Somebody goes, um This show had I don't know, I must say Some premium insights, guys. Great episode. Uh somebody just kept spelling the word premium over and over again.

Um simply premium content, premium episode, even more premium guests. Keep it up, guys. Have a premium Easter. I think we gotta give it to this guy who wished us a premium easy. Who's that person? His name is Famous Asta logo. So I'm gonna comment on here uh that he should slide into our DMs. We will pay for for this guy's YouTube premium. And in this episode we'll do the same in the comments.

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