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#614: Q&A with Tim on Wealth and Money, Book Recommendations, Advice on Taking Advice, C.S. Lewis, Relationships, Behavior Change and Self-Awareness, Why We Are All (Mostly) Making It Up as We Go, and Much More
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No Hello, boys and girls, welcome to another episode of the Tim Varis show where it is usually my job to sit down with world class performers of all different types to tease out habits, routines, favorite books, and so on that you can apply and test in your own lives. This time we have a slightly different format and I am the guest. As some of you know, to celebrate the fifteenth anniversary of the Four hour workweek, which was first published on April 24th, Two thousand seven, hard to believe, I signed four hundred and twenty four copies of the book.
Get it April twenty fourth, four twenty four. As thousands of you threw your hat in the ring to win a signed copy, I wanted to do something special for all of the entrants who did not get a book, or all of them in total. So I invited those folks to a private YouTube QA and And we covered a ton of topics this episode is the recording of that session. I answered many questions on a variety of topics including startup investments, IFS therapy, my views on wealth and money, CS Lewis, Lower Back Pain, Solitary Time and Its Challenges, Lessons from one of my favorite people, Kevin Kelly, books I'm currently reading. Maintaining relationships, Japan travel tips, from whom to take advice and how to evaluate that advice, self awareness, behavior change, my current alcohol consumption or lack thereof, although that has quite a bit of volatility, and much, much. more. So I have certainly more questions. about things in life than I do answers, but I took a stab at quite a few things. I hope you enjoy this as much as I did.
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Hundred and one. I think that means we have enough people. To get started with this thing. That's actually a good number. So I am clicking record. On my First back up.
Which is a Sure M V eighty eight plugged into an iPhone With the sure mode of recording, then I have my second backup. On Quick Time Audio. And then I have my primary. This ATR twenty one hundred or actually a newer version from Audio Technica USB. All in all, I mean this is three forms of backup. Just to give you an idea of how cheap this podcasting game can be. This is probably 120 bucks, maybe$200 worth of gear total. And then we have YouTube for free. Thanks, YouTube. Thanks, Google. And I'm excited to dive in.
So we will go back and forth. Between Live questions. We have 135 people. Hundred and thirty eight, this will probably continue to grow.
And uh some questions that were submitted beforehand. So I will go back and forth Between those, and just to give folks a few minutes To pop in because it's three oh one PM start time of three. Actually I'm gonna reverse the order. And see if I can answer a few things.
In the chat. So please fire away. Feel free. to drop in some questions. And I will answer a handful of those and then we'll jump.
to the pre submitted and we will continue along those lines. Barik, I think you said one is none. That's a reference to the Two is one and one is none. So if you have two of something, you will lose one and you will have one remaining. If you only have one, you will end up with none. And that is from my friends in the military. Feels weird to hear Tim in one time speed, Florian, I know. May I haunt your dreams just a little bit less.
after this. Hello from Ireland, Connor. Great Strong Irish name. Nice to Meet you. And let's
continue down with the questions and then I will Edit this to make it sound pristine, uh or my team will. Yeah. Hello from Quito. Yes, Patricia. Let's see. Do I still invest in startups? I very rarely this is from Bogdan invest in startups, but I do occasionally invest in startups. At the moment, it is mostly going to be
Climate solution slash tech related Or web three, although I've really dialed back on that to reallocate to more of the climate solutions and Next generation agriculture, things along those lines. I haven't done a live chat in a long time, so it'll take me a minute to get accustomed to navigating the chat box. It's been a long time.
All right, this is from Chris. I produced TEDx Chicago for the past four years. I've often wondered if you'd consider doing Tim Talks, live events, with you interviewing folks you'd like to talk to, thoughts, reaction. So Chris I actually Just prior to Covid. This would have been Q four of twenty nineteen. So end of twenty nineteen and then Potentially January of twenty twenty. I was in discussions with multiple venues.
in Austin to do a live podcast series that would be something similar. to the series that you might see on, say, Netflix. With some of the late night show hosts.
And I considered doing that. I'm still considering doing it. It's really just a question of logistics, time. And Life energy, which we may come back to.
So that is still on the table. And uh T V D. Sure. Have I considered moving out of the US recently? Things seem to be getting really crazy. If so Where is interesting to you? Well, my general feeling is choosing the option that then presents or provides the most options. So it's likely something that would provide access to a larger geography, whether it's in the EU or Commonwealth or something like that. But I'm not
currently planning on moving Because I think wherever you go there are going to be problems and I think the problems are going to get more and more complex and more and more serious in many places, including in the EU. So rather than jump kind of out of the frying pan and into the fire, I'm also going to focus on trying things here. in the US and I was born here. I didn't choose to be born here. I am very grateful and fortunate in a million ways to have been born a native English speaker in the United States. And it's afforded me a lot of opportunities. So I feel some
karmic obligation to try to help here as well. So no immediate plans to jump. John. As someone who seems to be thoughtful about risk mitigation, are there any steps you're taking to prepare for a society that seems to grow more and more contentious all the time? Yes, I am planning on reducing my internet footprint in certain respects. and probably disengaging from the most polarized platforms and those platforms will I think continue
To skew. towards more extremes. And certainly at this point I have no kids. Once I have kids I expect I'll become much more monk like. in my predispositions and will care even more about privacy. Now some of my friends, very smart people, would say privacy is dead.
That should be sealed. You should just accept that privacy is dead, but it is still up to you what you broadcast and what you share. publicly. And that does have an impact on not only your life, but the lives of those around you. And I think this is particularly important to consider when your, say, kids do not opt in. if they're not of an age where they can give consent. I kind of like to assume that they haven't given consent. That's my current feeling. Maybe I'll change my mind once I'm flooded with hormones and decide I want to plaster everything with photographs of my kids. Who knows? But I think that is going to be my orientation. And I think having a plan B, whether that's a professional plan B,
A geographic Plan B. Income plan B Never hurts. That's how I think about these things, but understand that I come pre-packaged, pre-programmed. with some degree of
Paranoia and hypervigilance, so I tend to skew. That direction. I would say. Let me answer one more and then I'm gonna jump to some of the questions that were Submitted and
I will begin with Believe this is a company name, so I'm gonna skip it, but I will answer the question and that is can you share an interview that was the most impactful for you personally? And I get this question a lot. And my general answer is all of the podcast episodes are personal to me in some way. They usually
are a result of me having some type of question, problem, or goal or desire that I can't quite figure out or would like help figuring out. And so I invite a guest. So at different points in my life. Any given interview. could be the most impactful, but one that I refer people to a lot. That had a big impact on me. is with BJ Miller.
And I'll let you look it up, but BJ Miller at the time, he may do more now, was a hospice care physician who was a triple amputee. due to an electrical accident when he was in college, actually, and I had some familiarity with the story, has helped more than a thousand. He's probably helped thousands of people to die at this point.
To make that transition. So to speak, which kind of alludes to a number of other questions I received today. And uh I highly suggest that if you haven't heard it, it is at least five years old. And There's a lot to it. And if you listen to it two or three times, you will learn something new or notice something new. each time. And there's a good amount of overlap actually.
in one respect with an Ed Cook interview that I did, this sort of cosmic insignificance therapy, which is actually the name of a book excerpt that also reinforces this point from forty thousand Is it 4,000 weeks, 40,000 hours? I always get mixed up. Somebody can probably correct me, but I believe the book is 4,000 weeks. I can never remember the number. That's one of the issues with the title, but Oliver Berkman is the author, and if you look up Cosmic Insignificance Therapy on Tim Dotblog, you will find it. Yeah. Alright.
I said I was gonna do one more, I'll do a few more. Carlos Manuel Hey Tim, would you consider doing new version of Tribe of Mentors? Your access to really awesome people keeps growing. Yes. I've actually been considering doing a new version. A new volume of Tribe of Mentors or Tools of Titans. And I was thinking about that this morning, literally.
because I was lamenting last night at a dinner with a friend who is also a podcast guest because he asked me. Are you going to write another volume of Tribe Mentors or Two of Titans because he, and this is a very high performing guy. Got a lot out of
Both the box. And I personally would like a reason to Not so much reach out to new people, but even more so to review.
say the last hundred or two hundred episodes of the podcast. to glean what I may have forgotten, to highlight what I may have failed to implement. And so on and so forth, the motivation would very much echo what is written in the introduction or the preface to Tools of Titans. It would be for me personally and the assumption
There being that if I do it for myself. That readers. At least some readers will find it interesting. Okay.
Let me jump into some of these questions that are the selected questions which came in as being pre-submitted. We've got between four hundred and five hundred people now on the line. So let me jump into that and then I promise I'll come back and Well Answer some more live questions.
So the first Pre submit a question. is from Ariana. And I'm gonna read this not necessarily because I have a great answer, but just because it may open the door And provide. a tool to people who are listening and I'm gonna look into this. So here is the
Question. I am an IFS therapist. And for those people who don't know what that means, IFS is internal family systems. I don't love the naming of this system, but the results are really undeniable, at least in a lot of friends, and also for myself personally. And I interviewed
Richard Schwartz, who is the founder slash creator of IFS, although parts work has existed in different capacities. and been used in various modalities for some time. Coming back to the question, I'm an IFS therapist. And I've had a couple of folks find me specifically from looking up IFS after hearing you talk about it.
I'm super curious, have you ever explored the side of IFS that helps folks explore inherited trauma slash energy? IFS refers to this line of inquiry as exploring, quote, legacy burdens. Yeah. The way you talk about your depressive and angry parts makes me wonder if any of the energy that those parts carry feels inherited. And I guess I'd love to hear your riff on that. So I'm not gonna riff for too long on this, but I will say that absolutely both of those two specifically Feel Inherited and uh
I am going to look into legacy burdens and may chat again with Richard. About that, and perhaps I'll do a round two on the podcast to explore that specifically, or at least do a session with an IFS therapist looking into that. So that is my very short
And sweet. Answer. Which is really a non-answer. It's just to say that is an interesting point that you raise. I will look into that. So thank you, Ariana. Next question up is from Sam. And his question is, did you get any happier when you got rich? What do you think a healthy view of money is? So I'll take this as a as an opportunity to give a shameless plug.
Two A friend of mine actually, Remit Seti. And uh S E T H I And his podcast, which I think is just I Will Teach You To Be Rich. It may have a different name, but if you just find Ramit Seti and his podcast. Each episode and I've listened to a ton of them.
He has generally a couple on And they talk about their money. Issues, their money priorities, what it means to live a rich life. And what you realize very quickly is that People have neuroses
Or stories at the very least, around money. That both help and hurt them no matter how much money they have. So he can talk to a couple where they barely have enough money to scrape by and they're hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, or he can talk to a couple that's worth 10 million dollars. And is still comparison and shopping for strawberries.
And uh at the very least it normalizes some of the unanswered questions and maybe unrealistic expectations that people have around Money. To answer your question directly. Yeah. I would say that It's hard for me, first of all, to point to a line after which
I felt. Rich, if that makes any sense whatsoever. And uh That If for the time being, and I'm borrowing this from someone else, I think it was a podcast guest, but the value or cost of something being the amount of life energy you exchange for it.
So you give to it or get from it. in the sort of pro and con Positive and negative. Sides of things. And
What I've noticed for a lot of my friends is that past a certain point. wealth actually turns into a Energy consuming. facet of their lives. And uh this is not to complain, because certainly I feel and I am extremely fortunate for a million reasons. But I I have observed people who, while they are on the hunt, while they are on the journey to become rich, and I'm putting that in quotation marks on my mind because I think the goalposts tend to move for people.
And it is and can be a very nebulous goal, but Implicit in that is very often the assumption that once I have this money, once I am rich, once I have won that game, Most of my problems or Many of my problems will be solved. And
On Maslow's hierarchy if we're talking about shelter food. Right. So rent or mortgage, et cetera, that type of thing. It can be true. But the psychological, psychoemotional issues. tend to not just not get fixed. But sometimes get exaggerated. So
By that I mean power, alcohol, money tend to magnify whatever is there. It's also true with psychedelics for a lot of people. And If you have, say, paranoia or you're worried about people ripping you off. fill in the blank. It could be any number of things. If uh you feel insecure in ways A, B, and C All of those levers I just mentioned, including money,
tend to amplify those things. If someone's generous, they're gonna be super generous. If someone's a stingy asshole, they're gonna be a super stingy asshole. And so on and so forth. And What I've found is that people can be very happy. and very often are very upbeat. when they can hold in their mind the belief That
Once they Cross the finish line. these problems will be fixed. Once they have the money. More often than not, they realize that's not the case and it can actually result in
different types of and maybe more intractable types of depression or malaise because then it's like, well, wait a second, for twenty years, thirty years, I've assumed this would solve the problem. It didn't, now what? And on top of that, I would say once you have team, once you have more stuff, let's say somebody buys a second house. uh, et cetera, all of that consumes life energy on some level. And you can create systems and so on, but it does create Yeah.
And for instance, if you have a bunch of money People are gonna ask you for that money constantly in some form or another, and you will feel compelled most people will to think about investing a lot and generating that initial wealth. and being really good at investing are two entirely different sports. So you may be very well suited to the former and very ill-suited.
To the latter. So Again, coming back to your direct question, did I get any happier when I got rich? I would say that having a certain degree of relief, especially when thinking about caring for aging parents when thinking about being able to help family members.
being able to help. family members and close friends during something like Covid, for instance, especially in the beginning when there was a lot of uncertainty and having some capital made a difference in terms of having optionality in moving people around and so on. All of those things I would say give me a greater peace of mind. And a certain degree of
Stillness, but On the other side of the ledger, there's a lot of shit that Eat energy. What do I think a healthy view of money is? I would suggest that you actually listen to my podcast episode with Morgan Housell, H O U S E L, on the psychology of money. This was a hugely popular episode. And I thought it would be reasonably popular, but it it ended up getting a lot of spread via word of mouth and becoming mega popular. So I'd I'd suggest listening to that. Now I would also say I don't have all the answers because I fit in the category of someone who thought money would fix Tons and tons and tons of things and be able to
Exhale and go. maybe lay on a beach and rub cocoa butter on my belly and read novels and be perfectly content to do that for months and months of the year. Turns out not to be the case also, if you're accustomed to driving In sixth gear.
On the Autobahn. And you've done that for twenty, thirty years. getting used to like driving through a school district and stopping at red lights and so on it twenty miles an hour is not automatically easy to do. You think it would be, but If you're used to park or mostly six gear, getting used to the gears in between.
at least for me personally has been very challenging. So I'm still working on it and I think this is a fascinating, fascinating question. So I may not have given much clarity. But that is my my current state of play with these questions. Matthew correcting the title, 4,000 weeks.
The book that I mentioned earlier, Oliver Berkman. Great book. more highlights in that book and Psychology of Money actually by Morgan Housewell than probably any books. in recent memory for me. All right. Next question. Is
Chris from Annapolis. Tim, you've mentioned before that podcast guests have final say. over content in their interview and they can cut out any parts that they aren't comfortable with. Has there ever been any interview where the guest or you decided it wasn't up to standard and was never published on the podcast? The answer is yes. That has happened. It has not happened recently. But I would say in total of the six hundred plus episodes that we have recorded.
There are maybe six to ten That have not been published. And it is true that I give every guest final cut, which is also what inside the actor studio Did Certainly, with James Lipton.
And it's not that uncommon a policy, given the format of the podcast and the intention, which is much closer to say how I built this with Gyros than it is to hardball or something like that, where I'm looking to pin people in a corner and Get them with gotchas and have some type of controversy and that's the main hook I use for my audience. It's not the intention. So I find it very easy to offer people final cut. However, I will say there are conversations occasionally, and first of all,
I'd say fewer than three percent of guests ever take advantage of that. And the intention is to say, rather than self-censoring. in the interview. And this is true with writing as well. You don't have your Genesis engine, your creative engine and your editing engine running at the same time. It's just not a great way.
Great work, I don't think. And you know, you have not that you want to model Hemingway and all things, but the kind of Right drunk at its sober approach applies to podcasting. So what I tell people before we start recording And I say quite a few things. Before we start recording, but one of them is Just
Go all out. Come out raw. Share the details. Tell the stories and we can always cut them later, but don't self censor. Assume we've had two glasses of wine each.
We're decent friends. And that's the kind of conversation we're having, just the two of us. And then we can always cut things out later. And that's generally the phrasing. However. If there is a section.
And this has only happened once or twice where they say, you know, I'd really like to remove this, but I think the section is important. my general response there will be I'm happy to cut this. But what that's gonna mean is the interview itself cannot stand on its own two legs.
And I can't publish the interview. So if you don't want that component of the interview We just have to shel the interview. And That has yet to result.
in an interview being shelved. So those are some of my thoughts and approaches on final cut and how that applies. to podcast. There are many ways to do this, so there are plenty of folks who don't do that with guests. But
I have been too often in the interviewee seat. I mean I've been interviewed hundreds, probably thousands of times. And I'm just operating using the the golden rule here. Treat others as you would like to be treated. So I will also ask people before we start recording, in case you're interested, I'll say a number of things. First, it's not live, so if you want to go to the bathroom, get water.
Pause and ask me a question. If you want to stop something because it's not coming out the way you want and restart your answer, you can do all of those things and we can make it sound better in posts, so don't worry about it. And I will also ask them, what would make this a home run? Three months from now, when you look back, what would make you thrill that you took the time to do this interview? And for most folks Who I have on the podcast, when I ask that question, they say, Wow, I've never been asked that before. And uh they very often have good answers. So it helps to inform the conversation. It makes them more comfortable.
It Tells them, hopefully. That I am an ally and not an enemy. that I've been in their seat before. And it just makes the entire process more pleasant and more fruitful. Again, if we think about the right drunk, edit sober type of approach to audio. I find it super helpful.
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Brian. I have rarely come across C S Lewis fans or admirers outside of Christian circles. What makes him compelling to you? Including your praise of the movie The Most Reluctant Convert. All right.
So I will answer this. CS Lewis, I First. discovered as a writer. So I did not discover him as a Christian and then move to his writing. I simply found his prose in his writing Spectacular. And
I enjoyed The Craftsmanship. and the brilliance, and I still do, that goes into his writing. And uh I do think he's also cross demographic and mainstream in the sense that
He wrote the Chronicles of Narnia. Which may very well be an allegory for Christianity and and central figures and uh beliefs in Christianity. However The Chronicles in Narnia, I was looking this up before doing this Q and A has sold more than a hundred million copies in forty seven languages.
least based on Wikipedia. So it has crossed over into mainstream, but I find him compelling because of his writing and also thinking. The most reluctant convert, I don't recall how I first found that it was probably because I was looking for documentaries about C.S. Lewis In this particular film. is fact based or non fiction history based. But it is acted, and it started off, as I understand, as a one man show. On Broadway or off Broadway, but as theater.
And the Main older actor who plays C. S. Lewis. narrating his own life. Is so good. I mean, the acting is so, so incredibly good that I recommended it, but it is not for religious reasons.
that I recommended C. S. Lewis. Uh and I will look up. Actually one book. Again, it's gonna sound strange perhaps. But that
I found fantastic that has very strong religious implications and overtones, but the screw tape letters. By C. S. Lewis. I absolutely loved. I read it. more than twenty years ago. So I may be missing something that doesn't jibe with
current political correctness or something else. And if if so, sorry about that. But Those are the reasons for which I find CS Lewis. Really, really, really interesting. And I should say at the same time that I read the Screw Tape Letters, I was reading Bertrand Russell. and you know, why I am not a Christian and all these other books. So my interests relate to the prose and thinking of these people and is not driven first and foremost by
uh belief system. At least not one that I'm aware of. There's always the question of awareness in which beliefs I've come to on my own and which I've simply inherited from my family or environment or upbringing or otherwise. Okay, let's jump into the live questions and I will grab some more from the chat.
Alright. From Michelle. Hi from sunny Scotland. That's not something you read every day. And I do love Scotland, but it hasn't always been sunny when I've been there. I do love your coup, the Scottish
Cows are amazing. How do you get things done when you're having a bad day? I Well say this because I hope it makes people feel better. When I'm having a really shitty day It's very common that I don't get. Much done or don't get anything done. I get to the end of my day and I've been busy
Maybe. And I can't remember a single thing. I could not write down more than one, perhaps, things that I got accomplished that were meaningful in any way. So hopefully that makes you feel better. But
If I am trying to hedge that in some way, I would say Exercise and blue light. So using some type of light exposure with a portable device. I've used the Phillips Go light, I believe it's called before. Which you can get on Amazon or just about anywhere else. But light exposure and exercise.
For sure. would be the prerequisite or kind of boot up sequence that I would use. Cold exposure, oddly enough, you wouldn't think that Cold exposure would be a real Archimedes lever here, but it does affect dopamine release. There's a lot of literature to support this. And
for me at least has antidepressive effects that last a while. It is not ten or twenty minutes. There is some durability to it. And I find all those things. Very, very Helpful. You know what, I'm I'm just in this I'm in the in the mode of of confession today, so let me give another one. Adam, I know your meditation practice is somewhat fluid. How does it look today?
It's so fluid, in fact, that I've completely fallen off the wagon and have not been meditating for the last At least month. And I've excused that. I've rationalized why that's okay in many different ways and at dinner last night.
was told in no uncertain terms, it's not okay. And those are all excuses. So I intend to get back on the wagon. The way I'll most likely do that is using the Waking Up app with Sam Harrison going through his Very early initial. program, which I think is somewhere between ten and thirty days.
And uh then I will also layer in T M, so transcendental meditation. Putting aside some of the kooky stuff that's associated with TM, it's really just a mantra based repetition practice. I find the simplicity of that to be very helpful.
We're getting back into the habit. And then we'll go from there. I do find Locke Kelly Quite interesting. and have been consuming some of his lectures which are quite short, and uh that would be my approach to getting back on the horse.
Alright, let's see what else we have here. Okay, here's a question. Do you think Ivy League graduate schools are worth the cost? It's so dependent on personal details.
Whether you're taking on debt. That's it, Rob. I will say that my view of higher education and graduate degrees in general is that It depends a lot on the caliber and name recognition of the school and also what that does to your
Professional. Opportunities. So if you're gonna go to business school, does it make sense to go to the a hundred and seventy fourth best business school? In the US? For a lot of people the answer will be no. If you get into Harvard Business School and you're in
Accounting or consulting or banking and May that open up opportunities and also give you A nice Two year. Vacation of sorts where you can
play beer pong while coming back to a higher position after graduation? Quite possibly. And in some cases you can actually in quite a few cases, those types of career tracks will pay for your further education. So There are instances where it can make sense, but
I'm focusing on specifically the question of graduate schools. I think for undergrad the calculus is a little different and you're going into, say, a liberal arts education, even if you're focusing in a technical major And Having Yeah yeah.
brand name of an Ivy League school that is globally recognized. has lifelong benefits. So If that can be achieved and paid for. without becoming an indentured servant for the next Ten to twenty years, I think it's it's worth
Considering. All right. Let's look at a few more. All right, here's a question. Thank you for the copy of the Lion Tracker's Guide. What lesson would you hop a loved one of yours would get from it? Well, if I consider myself
to be in the group of my loved ones, which I don't always feel to be the case. I would say there's a line in there from tracker. Renius. Mshong go. Which is I don't know where I'm going, but I know exactly how to get there. Okay, which refers to losing the track, not knowing where the animal eventually will be found, but understanding the process.
By which you can get to that animal and trusting in the process, even when you lose the track, which is inevitably part Uh. tracking as I've spent more time looking at it. I think that is one of the lines I would come back to and one of the lessons I would come back to over and over again.
How do I handle overly political people family friends? I don't have overly political friends. I Break up with them. I'm not kidding, generally. People, family, I Get very good at. redirection to other topics or I just request that we not talk about politics.
Nothing's gonna be solved. It's generally not always, but generally just salty old dudes. Bitching and moaning. And I consider myself at this point a salty old dude, so let's be honest. But I just don't see anything productive. If someone is not actively in the arena. Dealing with that and trying to solve the problems they are.
detailing, sometimes an excruciating high volume, then I just don't have any interest in hearing it. So That's the short answer to that. Other than John McFear, are there any essayists you recommend checking out? I would say SAS I mean Ralph. Waldo Emerson comes to mind.
But you may or may not consider him an essayist. Also John Muir. comes to mind. I mean I have been reading a lot about
The history of Yosemite. And uh also the history of the national park system in the US. So I have been reading a lot of writing from people who might be described as transcendentalists or naturalists. So those are a few that come to mind.
It's a question from Michelle. Have you read works by Rudolph Steiner? Thoughts on his body work. I haven't, but I am interested. So that name has come up a lot in the last few months. for reasons that are not totally clear. So I intend on investigating that. This is a question From wine.
I'll just say Vine. Are you going to publish your fiction book in the real world? So I am not currently working on a fiction book. There are a number of questions about Fiction. And actually here's a question from David. What is an unfinished project you have that you still care about? And would like to finish at some point. Is there anything I we
In other words, the audience can do to help. So I am in the process Of thinking about creating fictional worlds. And also but separately Writing a screenplay. And you know, for what the audience can do, I don't really have an ask at this point in time, I would say just
Check it out when I share something. And if anyone is interested in my first published Piece of fiction. Which deliberately I've only made available in one format. You can go to Tim.blog slash NFT. I wrote a short story. Not a big moneymaker by any stretch of the imagination. All the funds go to my foundation.
Which is a nonprofit and supports research like The various novel treatment for Say. major depressive disorder and so on, PTSD, that Sise Found is focused on. But you can go to Tim.blog slash NFT and take a look at that. And you can zoom in and read it. It's a little challenging to read, but I formatted it, tried to format it in such a way that you can do it pretty easily. Let me see.
What else What's the best purchase I've made over$250 in the last three years? I was expecting that to be under. The most recent purchase that I've been enjoying quite a lot is something called the SORIT PSO hyphen R I T E for SOAS release. It's very simple. piece of plastic. They have great margins on this thing. And you can see it certainly on Amazon and on their website. And they have some good how to videos on their website. And that came up because I was trying to find a way to un
lock my low back. Which can cause A lot of sleep disruption. For me. And I noticed that with
say massage therapy or good soft tissue workers if they were Technical enough to really do a nice job of releasing my Iliakis. that I could sleep really well. but I don't always have access to such people.
and wanted to find a way to do it myself. And this device is what popped up. I think it costs somewhere between fifty and eighty dollars. So that is Under two hundred fifty dollars. Over two hundred and fifty dollars. I would have to think about that. I'll meditate on that and I might come back. I don't
Buy a lot of stuff. I get sent a lot of stuff that I just end up giving away. So I'm generally in purge mode and not acquisition mode. All right, here's a question. What would you recommend reading, listening to to learn about Japanese martial arts culture? I would recommend reading the historical novel Musashi. M U S
A S H I It is long and it is amazing. It's one of my favorite novels. It is, I believe, the best selling novel in Japanese history. So it was initially published in Japanese, Musashi. And uh if you would just like to hear a, I believe, four hour conversation about this. I was on Jocko Willink's podcast. I think it was for episode number one hundred, but it could have been a different number. Where he and I because he's also and for if you don't know Jacquel Willink, retired Navy SEAL commander. has an illustrious
Career record. And a fascinating character all around. He had his first long form public interview on my podcast. And we talk in depth about
This novel. and some of the details within. So I would say Musashi is probably the first that comes to mind. question. I always get one of these, something like this. Did you lose your razor, you hippie? No, but since I can't grow hair here I like to grow. What Jason Statham calls the upside down face. So I get the hair.
On the bottom. So if you rotated it. It kinda look like a hair intact upside down head. So I just experiment with the facial hair and frankly I'm too lazy to shave every day. Question from Anand. If you had to recommend only one book, which one would it be? Right now, today I would recommend Awareness by Anthony DeMello. I think it talks about some foundational self awareness.
Issues that are the bedrock of functional or dysfunctional life. So that's probably the first one. That I would bring up. More neigh? What one to three skills has made acquiring more skills easier or irrelevant. Okay.
I'll mention three. Number one is acquiring relationships with polymaths who have mastered multiple things. Because if they have mastered multiple very disparate disciplines, for instance Josh Waitskin. in the case of chess and then later Tai Chi and Brazilian jujitsu and Foil boarding.
who is at a very high level with all of those. Or In the case of a friend who's say very good musician, also a very good writer. Ideally I like to look for people who have mastered a let's call it a mental discipline and a physical discipline.
Then I can generally get advice or introductions from them. Or Principle. That will help me.
With acquiring any skill I would like to acquire. And then uh if I try to fill the three slots that you offered, I would say. Another one would be learning. Any language that is a second language or a non native language to a high degree. is going to teach you a hell of a lot about not just fact acquisition, so declarative knowledge, but the procedural knowledge of producing
novel sentences and describing concepts when you don't quite have the vocabulary. You will learn a lot about how to acquire other skills by becoming, say, functionally fluent, which I think you can achieve generally in three to six months. If we're talking about languages that use a Roman alphabet of some type. you will find that a lot of the meta principles that you gain from learning a language will transfer to other areas. And if you haven't read the four hour chef, there's an entire section on meta learning. So the four hour chef, confusingly, is mostly focused on accelerated learning. So the meta-learning section of that
covers a lot of this, but let's just take a language, so I would pick say Japanese in my case, or Spanish. And then Let's pick one, Japanese. Which also got me familiar visually with a different way of
digesting and encapsulating information in the form of characters. And then pick a physical discipline. So it could be In my case, say judo, could be archery, something that has a physical component. And if you get really good Let's just say defining that as top five percent of the general population, not competitive population, that could be applied to powerlifting as well, right? You're not competing. Against
In that framing. people who are at the top of the competition circuit. You're just looking at say your body weight to deadlift. ratio for general population, if you can figure out a way to assess that. So if you have one mental, let's say in my case Japanese.
Which includes both declarative and procedural. Then you have a physical. Right now for me, it's archery, but let's just say it's Judo back in the day. and then having the relationships with at least a few people who are doing something similar. Right. So they are polymaths or multi disciplinary. In a way that includes at least
one primarily physical and one primarily mental skill. I think. you can obviate the need to try to Collect in some ad hoc way.
a lot of disparate things and you can you can pick and choose and be very effective when you pick and choose. Margaret, you have questioned looking back at your childhood, what is your favorite fairy tale or folk story? I was just thinking about this. before recording actually. And I I don't know if this will count as fairy tale. But
I was Thinking of I think prompted by the question about C. S. Lewis that took me to Chronicles of Narnia, and I started thinking about the never ending story. I loved The never ending story, the book.
When I was young and I misbehaved in school a fair amount and I would get sent to detention But what they didn't realize was is I love detention because detention was in the library. And so I could skip these classes that bored the hell out of me and just read whatever I wanted. And uh the never ending story was definitely one of my absolute favorites. I think it has a lot of philosoped in it that is actually intended for more adult audiences. And uh for that reason I would like to reread it.
I haven't thought of this in a long time. I would actually take the never ending story. And I would hide it. in the library so that it wouldn't get taken out. Before my next Detention.
And in that way I would be the only person who knew where the never ending story was, and I could always continue where I left off. So that's that is one. Okay, this is from uh Udle or Udle. I apologize, I'm not sure on the On the pronunciation, what did I most enjoy or find fascinating about learning German? And what did you find especially annoying or challenging about it? I'll start with annoying or challenging. It was also interesting to me, but
The Articles. and the declination of the articles. So the fact that you have Masculine, feminine, and neuter. Four.
indefinite articles A N in English or definite articles the. So not only that But If it's like datev, accusativ, or whatever, you have all these different adjustments based on if something is, say, being used to indicate a direct or indirect object. So you can have their de das, then you have Dem, which would be for the dot if
And Yeah. I Inus, Einem, then you have the the genitive. It goes on and on and on. So Part of the reason I forget German.
the fastest most quickly out of all the languages I have taken a stab at Is because As you would expect, right, just like people like German engineering, it's a very precise language. And uh there are a lot of rules. And the articles and so on drove me nuts.
I I found challenging also The number of Prepositions of sorts. that are thrown onto the front of verbs. I won't get into a ton of examples here, but I found that challenging. What did I enjoy about it?
I enjoyed learning a lot about older English and the etymology of certain, say, older English or even modern English words and looking at Germanic roots. I really enjoyed that. I really enjoyed the German people also when I was in Berlin. I just had a great time in Berlin and I found In general the Germans to be
Very warm and very funny, very blunt in their humor, which I appreciated. I think maybe coming from New York. Growing up in New York, I found it pretty easy to digest all of that. And I I really enjoyed and this is gonna be a problem for some people, but I enjoyed how the sentence
structure and the word ordering can change very, very Dramatically depending on how things are laid out. So for instance In English or in Mandarin Chinese. The sentence structure's pretty consistent.
It is subject, verb, object. I ate the apple. I go to school. Whatever. Now in Japanese you have the opposite. It's I to the library go, I the apple eat. And also pretty consistent. German has both. And English to some extent has a few exceptions, but German will have like Ich glaube das, or I think that. And then wait wait wait wait wait wait verb. And in the beginning.
I found that confusing as hell. And it was really hard for my working memory as an English speaker to hold on to all of this crap that I needed to remember before we got to the verb. And when my brain became more accustomed to that, I just it felt like Some type of
Let's just say you had the equivalent of like a frozen shoulder in your brain and then it suddenly regained its range of motion. It had that sensation in the brain for me. So there we go. Here's a question. Any updates on the Tim Ferris fragrance for men? You know?
This has been one of those stupid things that I've wanted to do for a long time that may end up being not that stupid. Much like I've always wanted to be able to do the side splits between chairs like Van Damme, I think I may give that One up. It's been on my New Year's resolutions for like thirty-five years, but the fragrance for men may be forthcoming. So keep an eye out. In fact that may become a thing. Alright, let me
Check a few more and then I will jump. to the pre submitted. Here's one. Oh, that's funny. All right. So I think this is a real estate agent in Germany. Dead das. Yeah, I'm already fifteen years in German, but still difficult. Totally feel you. I feel you. All right. This is a question from Anti Fragile.
I will read it as it would be pronounced in English. What role has downtime had on the severity of your depression? This is a great question, and I actually think It has been also in the pre submitted questions. So I will Give a stab now. What role has downtime had on the severity of your depression? How can one make time for one's creative pursuits while diminishing the vulnerabilities such mental space solitude can summon? This is a very good question. And I think about this a lot. Because
There are times when I'm tempted, say, to go do Two weeks in nature by myself. But there's definitely part of me that is concerned that when I provide that amount of negative space or empty space that the thoughts and the loops that creep in. Will be
Of some character. That bring about depression. or anxiety, mostly depression. And uh One might advise me that that's true initially and then it clears out. However, I have counterexamples.
And this is true for my Vapasna retreat that I've spoken about at some length in the past. and spoke about at at some length on Dan Harris's ten percent happier podcast. So if you want to hear more about that, you can uh listen to the ten percent happier podcast that Dan Harris did with me, but I had a complete
psychological breakdown at this Vapasana retreat, silent retreat. And I didn't make my life any easier by making it much more extreme. and exaggerated in a few respects. One was coming into it six days fasted because I I really wanted to make the most of this limited amount of time, but That is a concern. So first of all, I just want to validate that by saying you're not the only person who thinks about this. This is something that uh that I certainly think about. But your question isn't so much
One about Solitary time. It's a question about downtime. Now It seems like you're equating downtime to making time for one's creative pursuits. The way I think about this is a little bit different.
And um I would say f for me Creative pursuit right now is Dictated by Who can I interact with? Even if it's just once a week. Even if it's once every two weeks.
How can this bring me closer to someone I want to be closer to? And for me it's mostly pre existing friendships. But part of my reason The primary reason that I've thought about doing something in Incredibly absurd.
effectively a parody of the space in the NFT world is because I have all these old friends who are scattered around the country. And we used to all be in San Francisco together and we spent a lot of time together and had so much fun and then Life progresses, people get married, people have kids, people move away. And
Веб три з воно в фермській омост о зіл. get back on the same playing field in a way where they Are interacting and having fun. This, by the way, is not a recommendation to invest in Web3 or NFTs. I think you should assume. that pretty much everything could go to zero and a lot of these things will go to zero. So
This is not investment advice. This is psychological commentary for me in terms of choosing project. So I am actually choosing the playing field first and then I'm deciding, all right, which sport do I want to play on that playing field. Which position do I want to play on that playing field? But it's actually starting with the who. And not starting with the what.
If that makes any sense. And I found that And have found that at least so far to be very helpful to my mental state in the sense that it bolsters me, it feeds me, it nourishes me. as opposed to making me feel like I'm stepping out to a cliff and peeking over The side where I can say, Yeah, this is a great view, but if one foot slips I could find myself in trouble. Hopefully that helps.
Megan What have I been reading, listening to lately that has impacted your thinking about parenthood? Well I w have something right next to me. And I'll I'll just pull two books. So the first, I don't even know if this has been published yet. It was sent to me by Kevin Kelly, who's an incredible human being and I still think probably the most interesting man in the world in reality. So I would suggest listening to my first podcasts I did with Kevin Kelly. But he sent me this little book. It's called
Excellent advice for living. Yeah. Seeds for contemplation and uh these are based on his I wanna say for the last two or three years, his annual What I've Learned lists, where he turns sixty eight and he put together, I think sixty-eight bullets. And then he turned sixty nine, he put together another sixty-nine bullets. And this little book contains, I wanna say, three between three hundred and four hundred of such bits of advice. Kevin
is also one of the most engaged and I would say successful Parents. and uh spouses I've ever seen. So I find Kevin. to be a a role model worth studying. So that doesn't directly answer your question, perhaps, but
For me, it's about understanding someone's complete picture well enough. That you don't cherry pick one piece. And find it. later to your detriment to be hitched to everything else. So what I mean by that is
In the world of business, for instance, or investing. I know a lot of young men make this mistake. They're like, okay, I wanna emulate, and I'm sure young women make this mistake, or older men and women, but they'll say, I wanna emulate fill in the blank investor. He or she has compounded twenty percent for the last 17 years. That's what I want because I want to be rich. And what they may neglect to do is go on to Wikipedia and read about this person and realize they're on their seventh marriage.
And that you can't automatically Cherry pick. One piece of someone's life. and uh force fit it into your own. and safely assume that other parts of your life will not change.
as a result of inserting that. So in Kevin's instance, I feel like I know Kev well enough. We've traveled around the world together. I've seen him with his family, I've been to his house, I've spent time with him. He's not one of my closest friends, but I know him well enough. To think.
Okay, holistically. Kevin has figured a lot out. He also lives in a very non consensus way, but he does it Through reasoning and by paying attention to his internal compass, not simply to be a contrarian. So for all those reasons, I find Kevin Kelly fascinating. And you could certainly just look up his What I've learned birthday posts.
If you can't find excellent advice for living, that's the first one. And the next one, which I've had on my shelf for a very long time, is this. This is And I think I'm gonna be pronouncing this. Correctly but Sorry if I'm not.
Dear author, Johan Hari. I believe it's Johan, but somebody could probably Correct me if I'm wrong, J O H A N N N last Name, H A R I. This book is Lost Connections. And the subtitle is Uncovering the Real Causes of Depression and the Unexpected Solutions. And most of this relates, as far as I can tell. Now, in fairness, I'm only reading part three. I'm skipping the description of all of the causes of depression and I'm skipping all the descriptions of the issues and jumping straight to part three, which is reconnection or a different kind of antidepressant, and really reading about social cohesion. And uh Social structuring.
That might be a strange way to put it, but How to think about cohabitating. Neighborhoods. Community. Such that
Parenting, among other things, can succeed. So rather than saying how can I be the best parent Which is certainly a question I'm sure I'm gonna beat to death. Once I get closer to having a Kids.
But putting that aside for the second, asking rather how can I set the conditions Such Is that the likelihood of a kid turning out well. happy and healthy to the extent that's possible with some genetic
Determinism, maybe. How can I do that through thinking about Where we live. Who is around us? what support structures exist and so on.
So those are Two quick answers to your very short question. Thank you. This question from Anthony. Dream guests. Who are dream guests? There's a long list of folks. You know, I've thought about Oprah, of course, and and many others.
But Sometimes the juice is not worth the squeeze with mega celebrities. You just have to interact with so many layers. of people and a phalanx of lawyers. And the manager and the agent and the publicist and the publicist's assistant and
All of that. that when you finally get to the interview, you feel worn down. And it can take a year, a year and a half, two years, three years to get these things done. So I've not pursued that very hard, even though I would love to do it. I think Oprah's incredible. And uh for those interested in learning more about her, the making of Oprah is a short mini-series podcast. that I've only listened to the first season of, but I found it very interesting. Others.
That come to mind. would be Daniel Day Lewis, even though Frankly, I'm not sure. he would ever do it. And secondly, I have not listened to many long form interviews, but I think he's such a spectacular performer. that it could be interesting and he is very hard to get a hold of. So there's part of that that is
appealing to me in and of itself. Ryan Reynolds, I think would be Incredible. And there's certainly many other and I've checked off a lot of my dream guests. If you think about Jane Goodall, you know, I wanted to have her on the podcast since day one. Fortunately, you know, Madeline Albright.
Margaret Atwood. Just name a few. And many others, Hugh Jackman and also thinkers I wanted to have on for a very long time, scientists who are lesser known. So those are a few. who come to mind, but What I have come to realize for myself
Is number one. One of the best ways to grow a podcast is to focus on mega celebrities and controversy. And I have almost no interest in doing either of those things. So once I let go of that... and have viewed this podcast as something that nourishes me, hopefully as much as it nourishes other people. You can find fascinating people who will give you incredibly good
conversations and takeaways and actionable philosophies. And deep thinking. Everywhere. They are everywhere. In any given country, any given gender, race, creed, you can find them. So I don't worry too much about the wish list anymore. But yeah, I do have a a short wish list.
And uh At the very least, I think I'll give it a stab, like once every six months will throw out a long lead and see if we can get a Marlin. Alright, this is a question from Aaron Oh Aaron's dropped quite a few questions in. Let me pick one.
I'll pick the one. That Maybe I can answer. This is from Aaron. E R I N, did you mainly take a break from investing because of losses in the market before returning to crypto investing? How do you feel about the bear market now? No, I did not take a break from investing because of losses in the market. I took a break from investing for a bunch of
Separate reasons. So I wrote a post in two thousand fifteen which explains it well. And it is how to say no when it matters most. And then in parentheses or Why I'm taking a long startup vacation.
And this was a very popular post, October twenty ninth, twenty fifteen. How to say no when it matters most. Or why I am taking a long startup vacation. And we'll put the link in the show notes. But I will also
Drop the link. into the chat so people can check that out. And those are my reasons for taking a break. It really related to having time for deep work and focusing on other projects. did not have anything to do with losses. I'd actually uh at that time done quite well. I did, however, want to wait, given the number of private investments to see how many turned out because I did not have Complete confidence. I still don't have complete confidence that I'm very good at angel investing, even though I've had a number of wins.
You don't want to count your chickens before they've hatched in this case, you don't want to count your chickens before a liquidity event. So I wanted to also wait and focus on other things. And My crypto investing was around that time. Mostly. So I have not been speculating. Or day trading.
or playing much at all in crypto for the last several years. I'm watching it very closely and I'm interested in aspects, or I should say related marketplaces and technologies that are underpinned or at the very least denominated in some Sense?
in say ETH or other cryptocurrencies. But I think a lot of what's going on in crypto and web three, the vast majority of it's gonna end in tears and uh it's gonna run red. So that is not to give again Any investment advice, but just to tell you about my own thought process. I've been mostly on
the sidelines. How do I feel about the bear market now? I think that No one should be surprised. I think no one should be surprised by this and that What goes up comes down and That I am preparing to be in what we would consider not just a bear market.
But a full fledged recession with high inflation for quite some time. So I am not currently in the mode of deploying as much capital as possible into what One.
might think of as the bottom of of the market. That is not how I'm viewing things. I am definitely measuring twice and cutting once, and I am personally holding on to significant cash reserves. Now that could prove to be the wrong decision if my goal were to optimize for maximum return on investment and
compound and annual growth rate and so on. But right now I am optimizing for sleeping well at night. And fortunately don't spend a lot of money on too much expensive bullshit so I don't need to feed that monster too badly.
Johan Harry is a worthy podcast guest. Yes. Andre, I believe reading this correctly I agree with you, so I'm maybe I'll get him on at some point. Matthew, you're saying it's strangely satisfying when my head fits perfectly into the painting behind you. There you go. Check it out.
Thank you for that commentary. I appreciate it. Not done on purpose. Let's jump into some of the pre submitted questions. Next. is I'd like your perspective on this quote. If being hard on yourself worked. It would have worked by now. End quote.
Does that ring true in your own self-compassion journey and how do you feel now about your relationship to yourself and especially what you expect from yourself, having been on that journey for some time now? So I would say that much work Remains to be done. For me with respect to self-compassion, I am still very brutal when it comes to self-commentary and criticism. I do think it's improved some.
incrementally improved and to reflect On the quote because you asked for that. If being hard on yourself worked, it would have worked by now. Now something akin to this also would be if working harder On this worked.
It would have worked by now. Or if asking for this worked. in the context of say a significant other or something like that. If asking for this in the way you've been asking worked, it would have worked by now. Is
I suppose a mantra for remembering that If you repeat the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. you are engaging in some form of Insanity. However I think the challenge when we dig into the nuances here
and the practical results. Of being hard on yourself is that Being hard on yourself works for some things. I do think having
almost impossibly high standards and just whipping your back with the help of the demons in your psyche. and whatever collected trauma you like to use as, you know, a form of boulder pushing you forward. Does work for some things. It works for piling in the hours. It works for distracting yourself with a manic focus on
building your business, for instance, or something like that. So it's not totally useless. I think therein lies part of the challenge that Being hard on yourself does work or seems to help for some things. Does it work for
Increasing your feelings of contentedness. Does it work for increasing your feeling? Uh Spaciousness and ease. I don't think so. Certainly that's not the case.
And I feel like I've solved for many things in my life, but that is that last collection of three or four things I just mentioned is one that I continue to try to solve for. And I think many of you who listen to the podcast regularly will have noticed that in the guests and the type of questions that I ask. So If Anyone is
Struggling with that. Or finding that to be a challenge. You are not alone. Certainly. At least Nathaniel who asked the question, and yours truly count is two, but I know this is a very pervasive Challenge for
Almost everyone I talk to. Not everyone. But almost everyone. You know who seems to have it figured out, although it's hard to tell if he came out of the box this way. is Kevin Kelly, which is another reason why I find him fascinating and want to make a study of him. Next question. Considering Dunbar's law of having a max of one hundred and fifty meaningful contacts, how do you manage the relationships and friendships with all the amazing people you've met over the years, and especially through the podcast?
They all seem like people you would want to stay in contact with. I agree with Dunbar's law. having a max of one hundred and fifty meaningful contacts. In fact, I would say it's a lot lower than that for me. I don't think I can maintain more than a few dozen meaningful contacts. Meaningful here defined as
relationships that I communicate with Say. At least once every two weeks. And this is partially a function of just how much inbound.
gets directed at me and my team. I mean thousands. of inbound messages. If you count email, social, et cetera. Blog. and so on. It is impossible, physically impossible to digest and respond to all of those.
So I do think there's uh there's uh a certain degree of decision fatigue that feeds into this. But I would like to say that There are a few things that help me not feel stress around keeping in touch with people. or staying in contact with people.
The first is If you know one person who is really, really Good. They don't even need to be famous, but just very, very
Competent. I was about to say gifted, but that's not the same thing. Someone who has cultivated a high degree of expertise and ability in any field, that could be Neurosurgery, that could be applied linguistics that could be
Venture capital. If you know one person You can get to anyone else in that field. Generally speaking. Assuming that person you know isn't a total bastard.
So you will be able to get to just about anyone. If you get to know someone who is a national finalist in the dog agility championships. You wanna find someone in the dog world, especially in the competitive arena. you can find that person if you know one. So you really just need a toe hold in.
And I would say also I know a lot of podcasters, and those podcasters very often do Something akin to what I do. So they also have their own collection. of these wedges, so to speak. Last I would say
That Busy people. And most of the people I have on the podcast are busy in one form or another. Do not expect Nor do they desire to keep in contact with
or to keep up with many people. And if I have a two hour meaningful conversation with them and if I do my homework, if I do my prep, if my team helps me do that, If they come away from the interview thinking to themselves, holy shit. That was an experience. And
I've never quite had an interview like that before. That was really well architected. That was really well directed. The questions were reflective of a really high degree. of homework. I'm surprised I enjoyed that so much.
I do not need to Email that person a month later. to ping them to Keep My name top of mind.
And I think it would actually damage those relationships if I did that routinely. Yeah. So the folks that I select to have on the podcast and the people who self-select to be on the podcast generally just by virtue of being world class, whatever they do. Tend to be
Low maintenance. Seeking low maintenance. And uh They look for density of Meaning and connection.
rather than frequency. So I really don't feel compelled. to Stay in contact. With folks. Who I've established that baseline connection with.
Unless there's something meaningful to ask them or to offer them or otherwise. So there you have it. There are hundreds of people I've had on the podcast who I haven't had any contact with in years, but if I were to email them or text them.
I believe they would respond. If they're able. And it comes down to, I think Frap. And this is reflected also in their interactions with my team. So from start to finish, what was their experience? And if it was great.
Most of them, I think, are open to having some type of dialogue after the fact, even if we've had no contact whatsoever. Yeah. And this relates also to a presentation I gave at South by Southwest, which may be worth listening to for some folks, and I put it on the podcast. Which is, I believe, titled
Sounds a little hyperbolic, but how to build a world class network in record time. And I gave this South by South West because the organizers asked me If I would do a session explaining how to get the most out of South by Southwest, which is a huge Huge, huge, huge. festival slash conference.
So I would say start there and those are some of my thoughts. Let me look at Some of the live questions. What would my advice be to twenty one year old Tim?
Probably Drink a little bit less. Exercise a little bit more. Start meditating and do not participate in anything as an impulse that you think might destroy your shoulders.
I would say those are a few that come to mind immediately. Mournay. Are there any other principles or ideas in the four hour work week you think apply less today? Principles no. I think the principles, as far as I can recall, and I I did look at the book recently'cause I had a question like this come up. The principles I think still apply. Equally, if not even more so. in today's environment, honestly, with the amount of destabilization with remote work.
With experiments and decentralization with rentable infrastructure and services. I think the principles If you are looking for self-determined security per se if you're looking for preserving optionality. I think the principles in the four hour work week apply more so now than when the book first came out. The specific tech tools and so on that are mentioned in some parts of the four hour work week, like go to my PC, clearly
are outdated. And uh a lot of the specific tools could be updated. But if you understand the principles And the methods you can find. The specifics you will have the ability to search and vet.
the particular tools that suit your circumstances and objectives and so on. But I I think that in fact the four hour work week principles apply now more than ever. And I'm remembering another thing that reinforced this for me is I was asked to write a new preface. to the German edition. Of The four hour work week where the book has been spectacularly successful.
more copies have been sold in the German markets than in the UK markets and Australian markets. Maybe someone can explain to me why Germany and Korea seem to be such voracious book reading. Cultures. Across the board. My other friends who are authors say the same thing. But Regardless, the point was
I wrote a preface for A new addition. Same. as the revised edition in English. of the four hour work week and I went back and I looked at the book.
as a review. And I thought to myself eighty twenty. Yeah, Pareto's principle. Parkinson's law as a helpful heuristic. Dream.
Lining, fear setting, all these tools, all these principles seem to me to be timeless. But extremely timely in the current flux that we're experiencing, and I think we'll continue to experience for some time. So hopefully that is helpful. And for anyone who's wondering, you can find Dreamlining if you search that in my name. you can find worksheets and so on for free. And if you're interested in the fear setting as I described it, that was the subject of my
TED Talk that I did a handful of years ago. And you can find that at Tim.blog slash Ted and I also include some text as a description. Yeah. Question. What are three things one should do when visiting Japan that you wouldn't find on every travel blog? Number one, try to go to the Gibli Museum, G H I B L I Museum in Y no Kashira Park. It is the most Wonderful.
Unusual. museums I think I've ever been to. It's adorable. So Ghibli for those who don't know is the equivalent of Disney in Japan. Founded by Miyazaki Hayao.
And uh this particular museum is just Incredible. And when I attended, this may have changed, but they would give you a ticket and the ticket contained a clip of a real cell from one of their animated films. And I just loved it. When I was last in Japan, you can get tickets for that at Lawson, I think, which is the equivalent of say a 7 Eleven, which Then brings me to a food recommendation, which is To try to find
A Street side yakatory. Or some type of really, really low brow cheap Japanese food. And uh if you just search. I'm sure you can find
Which subway stop? would take you to or which train stop would take you to such a place where you can wander around and have some some street food in Japan. And in fact, if you wanted to do two for one, Inokashira Park. Inokashira Coen. at a number of entrances has
Food kiosks. where you can get any number of things. So if you wanted to do a two for one, you could do that. And then number three. I'm shooting from the hip here. I would say Is
get incredibly lost. And don't take your phone. So no using Google Maps. No using Google Translate.
Walk around, do this during the day, it'll be a little easier to get back to where you need to go. And get incredibly lost. And then find a Kobang, which is a Police kiosk. And uh
You could have the hotel or Airbnb address or whatever on a card. That's a fair game. And then have them With their almost Certainly Broken English help you get back to wherever. You need to be.
Uh that's an adventure that I think everyone should have. It is One of the most alien places an English speaker. could visit while still being Almost completely safe. I think there's been a little bit more violent crime in Japan since I was there in uh say ninety two, ninety three, and I visited many times since, but it is still incredibly safe by global standards.
Let me look at one or two more and then uh I will jump back to some of the presets. And I see now that we've been going for an hour and a half. I was only planning on an hour. I will keep going probably for another half hour for those people who are willing to stick around. Just let me know if you're still gonna stick around. If you'll still stick around, I'll keep going. So Let me know. Question from Goku. What's the most beautiful location you ever visited? One of them
First that comes to mind is Queenstown, New Zealand. Yeah. Incredible, incredible spot. That is one that comes to mind, but there are many. There are many, many, many places. Certainly I could probably pick ten in Japan alone.
And there's a lot. Alright. Let's see here. Julie. What's your system to choose a focus in business?
Pick up the eighty twenty principle. This is a book. by Richard Coke K O C. H? He may actually say his last name, Kosh. I think that's how he says it. You could listen to my conversation with him, which was I think a very, very solid conversation, but the eighty twenty principle, I would just pick up that book.
That is the shortest answer. That I can give while still being Helpful. Yeah, there's some commentary on the four hour work week in German. Uh it is fun to see.
how it's translated into other languages like uh Danish is something like Fiatimas Arbeit zuke. And I just loved learning all of the translations because I'm such a language nerd. So it's helpful to just Pick up. You know, five, six. Fifteen.
Words. With each translation. Alright. I'm gonna give this a shot. Uh this is a question from Cole. What sort of strategies have you applied to overcoming grief after losing a loved one suddenly? There seems to be a lot of bad content platitudes when it comes to death and grieving. I'll comment on this just because I recently attended my uncle's funeral and he died of alcohol induced cardiomyopathy, so
For those who are not aware, I'm very heavily involved in supporting non profit research related to psychedelic therapeutics. And These are often looking at indications like major depressive disorder, treatment resistant depression.
complex PTSD in the case of MDMAs is psychotherapy. But at NYU you have Silicybind for alcoholism and Psychedelics, I do think, apply more broadly to different types of addictions, including thought addictions. Which could be manifest. in O C D or anorexia nervosa, et cetera. But
These are in some cases very deeply personal for me. So my uncle became an alcoholic when he was a child and continued until he drank himself to death in this case. And uh We just had that. funeral it was really an internment because he was cremated And uh
I was surprised because I expected it to be very somber, maybe depressing. And One or two family members decided to tell really funny stories about this uncle. And
We spent a bunch of time together and and it ended up being Quite. Unexpectedly bonding for all of us to tell these stories, but to focus on the good and to focus on the funny.
He was a joker, right? He was a joker. It was his personality. So I think he would have wanted that. And uh it was The most Uplifting, I think. Repairing.
such service I've ever been to. So I do think that there's probably A place for storytelling with an emphasis. in some cases on humor, and uh I'm certainly no expert in this by any stretch. My friend Matt Mollenweg, who lost his father very unexpectedly, found
I think it's on grief. And grieving. to be very helpful. And uh he has recommended that people read this before they
lose loved ones. So it seems to have some P not preventative, but some preemptive value. On Grief and Grieving. This is by David Kessler. And Elizabeth. Kubla I guess Kubler Ross.
came highly recommended and I've mentioned that On podcasts. With Matt because I've had him on several times and have had tremendously positive feedback.
From listeners. So I would say that would be another possible recommendation, although I have not read it yet myself. Alright, let me jump into Some of the Submitted questions.
And Then We'll keep going. All right. I'm gonna do a quick one. AJ, what was your thought process and key decision factors on moving from the Bay Area to Austin? Answer to that is check out my Reddit thread. I wrote a Reddit
Ame answer to this that went somewhat viral. So I would just search Tim Ferris move from San Francisco to Austin, Reddit, AMA and it'll pop right up. Has it worked out entirely the way you anticipated? Short answer no. Anything you'd change. I don't think there's anything I would change. But I did move to Austin in part to get away from Any
mono conversation scene and I anticipated when I moved there in two thousand seventeen that Austin would become a scene probably in Save. I don't know. Seven.
to nine years, something like that. I did not anticipate. that Covid would accelerate all of that. so significantly, of course. And uh I would say that Austin has become a massive scene of scenes. So that is unfortunate.
But It's also a great city. Has a lot to Redeem it. Self and There are reasons why people are moving there. But if you want the basic
Rationale. Check out my Reddit Ame answer. Here's a question. I saw tweet recently that said, quote Way too many young guys are taking life advice from childless four year old men. End quote. I'm a student in my early twenties.
And I'm a voracious podcast listener. Your pod. Lex Friedman. Bology interviews, Naval, et cetera. I think this tweet was cynical and off the mark, but do you think people at my stage of life should be careful about relying too much on what they learn from your generation? All right, let's take a stab at this.
Yeah. So I think that People at any stage of life should be careful about relying too much On
Single. Archetype. Or demographic or psychographic. So I will point out also
Bology has kids. Naval has kids. So those two I would accept from the question because they're not childless.
Lex, I don't believe has kids. I do not currently have kids. So It also depends on what type of advice you are
Consuming. And Are these people? practicing what they preach. Are they walking the walk and not just talking the talk? So Depends for me.
highly on the type of advice. So if I'm talking to Let's say an IFS therapist, I'm not gonna ask them for say general contractor constructing advice for a remodel that I might be in the middle of. I'm going to recognize
Just like Me. Just like anyone else, there are constraints and limits to the expertise of any one person. And I'm gonna look for practitioners. So I would say that. And if you are getting all of your advice from people who fit neatly into a handful of parameters, let's just say forty year old childless men. Then I do think that is
A Prompt for Pausing. And Diversifying
Diversifying here really just means changing some of those variables. And uh I think that is incredibly helpful for Your intellectual health is is incredibly helpful for preserving a healthy level of scepticism.
So you don't accidentally get indoctrinated into the cult of Personality X. And Those are my general thoughts.
Part of the reason I do this podcast and kept the Tim Ferrer show very broad in its possible scope is I want to speak with a very wide spectrum of folks. If I only were able to speak to business people because this were a strictly business and entrepreneurship show. I would have stopped doing this a long, long time ago. And I do try to follow the advice then that I'm giving right now.
And That said, I will Also Underscore that
If you are studying and taking advice or considering advice, you should certainly consider and stress test the advice before. Implementing it. then you are ahead of a lot of people who just don't do that at all. Ha who are happy to regurgitate whatever the latest news is that they've pulled from their doom scrolling on Twitter.
and yell and shout on the internet. So if you are engaged in any type of self development, you are already, I would say, ahead of the curve, but certainly Much like a physical diet. A spectrum of different foods. will likely cover more bases, keep you healthier.
Then Some type of s strictly regimented. monocategorical type of eating. And that's true for your information diet as well. So I would say That my general thoughts.
Are pretty simple. In that respect. I have a question here. This is gonna be a bit of a long one. And by the way. We received hundreds and hundreds of submitted questions. And my first filter is
Do I know anything about this? Right? Do I have anything To Offer and a response. that I think is qualified that I've stress test it in any way. And if not, I just do not answer. Right. So I try not to speculate. I think there's too much speculation. And in general.
folks online speak with way too much confidence. So I just wanna say there are many questions I'm not answering in the live feed. There are many questions I'm not answering that were That were lobbed in. Some of them because they're asking for really particular legal or medical advice, which is just not something I can do comfortably. But in many cases, including those. I am just not qualified.
I would be Misrepresenting myself. as an expert and in so doing, on some level being dishonest and lying to all of you, and I don't want to do that. Now this one, we'll see if I have anything. So here it goes. I'm extremely driven to build my version of a deep life, filling it with things that are meaningful and substantive, cutting out the frivolous and harmful and hedonic pieces, and avoiding the seemingly infinite temptations of American life that lead to a shallow and frustrating existence.
My fiancee has seemingly little interest in the arduousness of this lifestyle, preferring ease and comfort as most do. I do not fault her at all for this preference, and I love her above all else and fully plan on spending my entire life with her. But every time that I try to convince her to tackle the task of self improvement with me, it only leads to arguments and hurt feelings. Since she is essentially half of my identity, How do you think I should handle this? Should I let it go and try to live half my life in each camp?
I find that hard to swallow since I'm fairly positive that that the comfortable American life basically smooths out the contours of your soul. Nice wording. And I have an immensely difficult time watching that happen to her. No, I don't think that's an option. So I guess my final question is how do I convince her to go on this journey with me? How do I convince her to forego comfort and decadence, especially when I'm having a hard enough time doing that myself. All right. That's a long question. But
I would like to Try to respond to it because I and I think many people have contended with this on some level. It could be a significant other. It could be a very close friend. It could be the five people you associate with most. And certainly Drew of Dropbox and I and others have said you are the average of the five people you associate with most. So if you don't want to get rid of your friends, what do you do? If
This is an issue in your most intimate relationship with a significant other, what do you do? And I can only speak to a few things that I have tried. Because hitting it head on with some criticism along the lines of Why aren't you interested in self development? is not going to be a crowd pleaser and is not going to get
The response that you want. So I'm gonna answer this in two stages. The first
is related to an assumption that's embedded in the first section of this question. And that was, you know, should I let it go and try to live half my life in each camp? I find that hard to swallow Da da da da da. No, I don't think that's an option. There's a false dichotomy being created here. So the options that are being presented, at least in the question, are live half my life in each camp. So half my life away from my partner effectively. Or fully integrate both of us so we are on the same program.
I'm exaggerating a little bit, but that is a false dichotomy. There are other options and there's a gradient, I think, between those two. So first what I've learned is Some things you're just meant to do on your own. And you don't have to do everything with your significant other. However, if you are going to say, Take a week.
To do A workshop. Or a week for a Soul Expedition or whatever it might be.
It could just be a week to go to Burning Man. I mean, I'm not saying that's self development, but You will benefit from A relationship. that can sustain that. So two people
who are fulfill of being say self entertained or self directed. At least four stints at a time. I think that's important. I do that with my significant other, or just as easily I could say she does that with me. There are times when we do our own thing.
Okay. That is component one. And then To The
Direct last question. How do I convince her to go on this journey with me? To me convincing implies speaking and persuading in conversation and I don't know that is going to be the most effective path.
What I have seen personally and what I've also seen And other couples. is the path of least resistance. is often identify what they already love. The things they already enjoy.
The activities they feel drawn to. And trying to bend the arc of one of those One percent. to include what you consider to be
Self development. So Let's just say hypothetically. that your fiance I'm making this up. that she loves going to yoga.
Well. You could find A Fantastic. Teacher training course.
And uh If you know you have one to two weeks of vacation coming up, let's just say it's in a nice location. Fill in the blank, could be in Sedona, could be in Bali, who knows, depending on your budget. And uh you could Offer that as an early Christmas present, early birthday present, or just as a gift, and say that you would like to cover that.
And uh you thought it could be super fun and you've been wanting to spend more time with her In her yoga practice so that you can do it together. And that would be a non-trivial step.
in the direction of self development, I think. That would be a programmatic way. To improve Yoga capabilities. and familiarity with terminology and also network, et cetera.
So I think we want to meet people where they are. I don't always do a great job of this. I can be very stubborn and headstrong and aggressive. So I don't always implement this in the most delicate or diplomatic way. But I have had success also with this is just trying to first, before you decide what you're going to convince someone of or where you want them to go. to meet them where they are. Do a mental audit. Of
The things they love, the things that are easy to do. And then try to find a slight variation on one of those themes. That allows them to step foot. In a way that feels good to them, not just to you. Towards
A path of Self development. I would also say That Self awareness. is a very powerful precursor to self development. So if there are things that you can do
Together, not just giving her homework assignments. That increased self awareness. That could be somatic self awareness. It could be getting better at applying things like the eighty twenty principle to career, so it might be a workshop along those lines.
Anything that helps to facilitate The habit of turning the eye inward. And asking questions, I think will also Not just lead to self development, but be self development in and of itself.
So those are a few of my Thoughts. on that, which is not an easy situation. It's not always an easy situation, but I do think there are many options. in between the two polar extremes that you indicated. And I do not think those two are mutually exclusive. I think you can incorporate Uh.
Let me take a look at some live questions here, folks. Claudia, do you have any self disciplined advice for ADHD folks? Who have already tried everything. I'm a German teacher, by the way. Ha ha.
Well, it freut mich to meet you. And uh I would say And you can find quite a bit written on this. You could see Examples.
From B J Fog. Who maybe still is, but certainly was teaching at Stanford for a long time and looking at behavioral modification. You could look at atomic habits. You could also look at the four hour chef, which talks about this at some length, and the four hour body, and that is using accountability and incentives. So if you want to make a change. having accountability in place in the form of both people
And Rewards and or punishments. Punishments work really well. Say financial punishment, where if you don't do A, B, and C, then Ю Well In advance provide a hundred euros.
to a close friend who will donate it to You are least. favorite nonprofit, the one you would not want to be associated with in your name, for instance. These types of mechanisms And setting these types of conditions can be very, very effective. So certainly, even though I appreciate the question, I don't believe that any of us have already tried everything. And I would suggest Looking at not
Methods of convincing yourself. but the setting of incentives such that it is compelling, sufficiently compelling for you to change the behaviors that you want to change. And Both the four hour body. and the four hour chef get into this in quite a bit of detail. But there are other examples, BJ Fogg and then James Clear with Atomic Habits.
And also Charles Dohig. Yeah. who has written a lot on habit. D U H I G G and I find a lot of what he has presented to be extremely interesting.
Timer. How do you plan such that emotionally tough moments aren't destabilizing? And then the examples of breakups, death of family members, et cetera. And uh
My answer to this is there are certainly tools and philosophies and frameworks like stoicism that can help. You weather some of these storms. But In some ways I find the most freeing
Way to think about this. To not Set the expectation and the pressure. that you can prevent these things from being destabilizing. Expect them to be destabilizing.
And Except that you are human and that billions of people Feel Somewhat.
temporarily destabilized by these things, and then it's okay. There is a book. that I found very helpful. And I do think the written version is different from the audiobook for some reason. And you can skip around. It found me at the right time by Bruce Tift, T-I-F-T, called Already Free. Which
Really Covers a lot of this. Oliver Berkman. in his book also talks about this quite a bit. That
You feel and produce manufacture. stress, for instance, when You ask yourself, How can I best handle all of my inbound, which might be hundreds of thousands of different messages. Whereas on some level if you accept that as impossible
you can finally begin to make. at least psychological or psychoemotional headway. So I would just say That Expecting it to be tough. And possibly destabilizing.
could be the first salve that you apply. And in fact, even if you read the moral letters to Lucilius Or Other examples of writing from famous Stoics, the most famous, Seneca the younger, etcetera. Shit was hard.
Bad things happen. And it's I think valuable to strive towards certain ideals and to follow certain principles and philosophies, but Thinking. Accepting your human experience and validating it by Not setting
the expectation that you will be able to avoid these emotions may be freeing in some capacity. I see a lot of questions about things I've changed my mind about in the last twelve months. I'm having trouble coming up with something immediate, but I will say that certainly Watching the markets for the last few months has just reinforced As
Some of the most famous and venerated names of the last few years have been obliterated. In terms of hedge fund managers and other types of investors just wiped off the face of the planet financially, even though Gathering there. Two percent.
management fee every year, they're perfectly fine, so no one has to cry any Tears for the hedge fund managers. They'll they'll be okay. But Having the complete like supernova of capital destruction, it's just become all the more clear to me that basically No one knows.
What they're doing. Or Put a different way, that may be too strong. That Everyone is making it up as they go along, and we shouldn't convince As I heard Stanley Druckenmiller say once, we should not convince a bull market with being a genius.
Those are two very, very, very different things. And on one hand, that's depressing. Or Unfortunate because it it'd be nice to think if I just find the right expert, I'll be able to Figure out my finances, invest and always make money in this, that and the other thing. But when you talk to someone like Morgan Household and you realize whatever your favorite asset class is, at some point it's gonna go down by seventy percent. That could be next year, it could be
next week, it could be five years from now, but eventually you're going to get Punched in the face extremely hard. Bye. These macro trends. So
What I was saying is on one hand it'd be nice to think that if you just find the right expert, everything would be solved. It's also freeing. when you realize even the people who are supposedly the best at this, a lot of them happened to just be riding as they w might say, secular tailwinds and uh floating atop a bubble before it all burst and they were just trying to rake in as much cash as possible before that happened. And uh
I find that kind of reassuring, if that makes any sense, right? It's kinda like watching reality TV and you're like Wow, I complain about my life a lot, but As Chris Bosch said on this podcast, and we've if you got a whole table of people together and they all put their problems on the table, you might pick up your problems right back and keep them for yourself. That when you watch reality TV and you're like, wow, these people are a mess and you feel better about your own situation, it should be humbling collectively Certainly individually, but just to realize that even the best in the world or people who are considered that
Are getting their faces ripped off. There are some examples of exceptions, but I find that to be very top of mind. For me. At the moment. So I've perhaps changed my mind on how I view very specific investors.
Somewhat, although Again, these investors generally, if they're really smart, figure out ways to win even if they lose. So One could say they haven't really lost the game per se, they just chose the right game to begin with. For more on that, I recommend reading More Money Than God by Sebastian Maliby, I believe it is. Yep, Sebastian Maliby, who also has a very good book on venture capital, more recently, I believe it's called The Power Law.
So that's something that comes to mind. And every day every week. I am certainly finding more Examples of strongly held emotional positions or
Anger based biases that I have That's are more reflective of my upbringing and environment than any objective truth in the situations that seem to catalyze them. Yeah.
Certainly that's something I'm also paying a lot of attention to. So those are Those are just a few thoughts and response. to that question. Alright guys, got a few more minutes. I'm gonna see
What else we have? There's question. Nerdane. Do I still do slow carb? Yes, I do still do slow carb, and I am currently following slow carb. That is the slow carb diet. For those who are not familiar, if you search how to lose a hundred pounds on the slow carb diet, you will see a number of case studies that are I think very impressive and lay out the basics of the diet. It is not complicated. See what else we have. All right. This is a question from
Matt? How do I ask for money? As a Green Beret, I got good at military process for funding, training, equipment, and special projects. Now I'm building a solar panel factory in South Texas, and the civilian world of funding is a new animal for me. As an investor, what inspires you to ultimately invest and work with a Mm. Let me respond to this. with a few thoughts and I'm gonna keep it simple. So the first is
There's an out of print book. Not all of it is great advice, but it will be I think helpful food for thought and that is Gorilla Financing. There's a book called Guerrilla Financing. Which covers alternative modes of financing. And I recommend this because
Most of the Startups and small businesses that get a lot of media attention are venture backed startups. They are taking money from venture capitalists. And angel investors. Like me.
and hoping for a 10x or a hundred X return. on that money to their investors and certainly to themselves and their employees. That model does not work for most things. So For instance, in this example of a solar panel factory, that may be a very
Unappealing. And Irrational. Place to focus. in that particular
Start up. Venture capital. market. And there are other options, right? You have things like invoice factoring. You have certainly Let's just consider it traditional debt. You have different ways to secure that debt. And I think that it is probably a good idea to broaden the horizon. of awareness related to
Alternative funding. mechanisms and approaches. So Guerilla Financing would be one. You can also find Early investment decks. These are pitches. So it could be ten slides, it could be twenty, it could be five. For
startups and companies that have done really well. So you could look at Any number of examples. The earliest examples of decks are available for a lot of the Unicorns and decorns and now Successful publicly traded tech companies.
And you can find those online if you just search Such and such company early deck. Early investment pitch. You will be able to find a lot of those. And
Those are probably the two first recommendations I would make. If you really want to learn about venture capital, there are some good books out there. Brad Feld. is a very good investor who has an entire book about different ways to structure and evaluate And contract. Venture.
Capital. Investments. But I would say before you go barking up that tree and do a really deep dive on venture capital, I would get a broader understanding. Of the many different vehicles and approaches you can take for financing and look at small businesses, not just Venture backed startups.
And best of luck. Good luck. Next question. Why did you stop asking your guests who they think is successful and why? This was always my favorite question on the podcast. Hearing successful people define success has helped rewire my own thinking around success, just as reading four-hour work week changed my entire perspective around time.
As an aside, thank you for all you do, your work has improved my life immeasurably. Yeah, well thank you for the question. I stopped asking The question Who do you think
of when I say the word successful and why. For a few reasons. What I found is First, if I didn't disqualify certain types of answers. I tend to get the same answers over and over and over and over again. So I would get Richard Branson, I would get Elon Musk, I would get Bill Gates. The names you might expect from the tech
Titan. Pantheon of sorts. That's the first issue. The second is on a large podcast, some people feel as though if they don't name their parents they aren't fulfilling their filial piety. So they will say my mom or my dad or my mom and dad.
And it is Not generally a real answer. Sometimes it is, but generally that is a Political Answer not.
An honest answer. And uh I tend to agree with Derek Sivers because I asked Derek Sivers, I highly recommend all my conversations with Derek, he is fantastic. He's actually very similar in constitution in some ways to Kevin Kelly. I asked Derek Sivers this question, he said, Well I can't really answer that question without Knowing the motivations and goals of the person I might name. So he said, you know, I might be tempted to say Richard Branson, but if Richard Branson
has set out to live a life of peace and quiet and tranquility and to slow down, then his life is potentially a total failure if he's Feeling. compelled to constantly create new companies and so on. So it's very hard at surface level To judge.
who is successful without understanding their motivations and priorities and so on. Now, had Richard Branson on the podcast also, I think that he is certainly following his priorities and his inner compass, to the best uh of my ability to tell. But the point still remains. It's difficult to discern. And so
What Derek said was really you should ask. Вона се вод сусфо. Who is the third person that you think of? Because first it'll be Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos or whatever. Second it'll be
My parents. And then the third answer will be when you finally get to some degree of truth that is non consensus and non political. So Given all of that.
And uh Maybe impracticality of asking someone. So when you hear the word successful, who's the third person who comes to mind? Explaining the question would take just as much time as them answering it. I dropped that from my usual rotation, but I'll consider adding it back in, but but it was Given some thought.
It was not accidental that that got removed from the rotation. Okay, let me take a look at just a few last questions and then I'm gonna hop off, guys. My planning to do my drunk dial shows again from Ernestus. No time soon. Uh those were fun, but I've cut back substantially on alcohol consumption. Not because I think it's a bad thing. I still drink alcohol. I had a glass of wine last night, but I have found that as I get older The penalty I pay.
For Getting properly drunk. Nine. is very high. It ends up affecting not just the next day, but probably two days.
subsequent. So I'm just I I'm increasingly unwilling to pay that tax. Reda, any tips for someone who wants to start a podcast? if you're an introvert. I consider myself an introvert. I am recharged by myself or in very small groups, say dinner with one to three people, and I'm depleted by large groups. So if you were saying
I am an introvert. But people tell me I should start a podcast, what should I do? My answer is don't start a podcast. If you are asking I am an introvert. As I just defined it.
And you could also define that as being Highly sensitive to stimuli. So I don't like being in loud restaurants. I don't like being in places where There's a high volume. On any sense could be bright lights.
I don't enjoy that at all. I've had a depleting. Ask yourself as an introvert, am I nourished or depleted by one on one conversations? If the answer is depleted, don't do a podcast. If the answer is nourished, then you can very easily do a podcast. Which is why I prefer Having generally. Say in the podcast with the long form interviews, one on one conversations
that I can then broadcast to millions of people. That is my ideal. I also enjoy doing these Q and A's, but it's Basically me looking at scrolling text and my own bald head. on a webcam. So it's kinda like Giving myself some uh Stuart Smalley.
affirmations in the mirror in the morning has some effect. Along those lines. Okay, Anand one person I would interview any day or every day. There are quite a few, actually. I think Kevin Kelly would be on that list.
Noah Feldman, who's been on this podcast. Would be on that list. Kevin Rose. Probably another who would be on that list. And uh I'm sure I could come up with more.
Question if I had to recommend just one of my books to a random person I met on the street, it'd be that'd be uh funny. Exchange for sure. Excuse me. Hi, my name's Tim Ferriss. I'd like to recommend one of my books. Have a good day, sir. But Which one would it be and why? It would be Tools of Titans. I think that is just the largest funnel. In the sense that it will appeal
to the highest percentage of people I could give it to. There's something in that book for everyone, I think. So it would be Tools of Titans. Request for Larry David on the podcast. Absolutely would love to have Larry David on. I was hoping to have Bob Einstein on. I was very sad that he passed before I had the chance. Tracy, am I still using Evernote every day?
Yes, I use Evernote almost every day. And uh you know I find the UI fine and uh it's easy enough to use. I'm a creature of habit, so I have used it forever. At some point I might make a transition. I think Rome Research is very interesting, and there are a handful of others. But at this point, yes, I still use Evernote. Here's a question. I'll I'll end on this one. So this is from Cafeina, that's funny. What is on my billboard?
So I'm actually gonna steal an answer. from a podcast guest whose name I invoked earlier in this conversation, Dr. BJ Miller. The hospice care physician. Who has helped thousands of people to die.
And he in turn got this from some bumper sticker. I asked him where he found it and I thought it was hilarious. I was expecting this really profound nuance story. He said, No, I think I saw it on a bumper sticker. And uh the answer is very present for me right now, and that is don't believe everything that you think. So this is a variation on
Don't believe everything you read, but I really think scrutinizing our thoughts is increasingly it always has been important, but it is increasingly important in a world that is designed mostly enabled by tech platforms and social media to polarize the shit out of you and to reward you for making your viewpoints more and more extreme and simplified. Don't believe everything.
That you think. And uh I would recommend for people who want to explore How you might do that in a structured way, you can look at the work by Byron Katie, and there are worksheets you can download for free that allow you to scrutinize some of your beliefs and thoughts. And I and many of my podcast guests have found those worksheets to be incredibly helpful. And on that
I am going to see what I can do about exercise and some dinner. And I very much appreciate everybody being here. Thank you for tuning in. Hopefully this was helpful in some capacity. I'm running a little low today on battery charge. So I hope it was coherent. At least portions of it were coherent. Thank you for all the questions, both the submitted questions that were sent ahead of time as well as the live questions and I really deeply appreciate
All of you. It is a small miracle that I'm able to do this type of thing. For a living as my J O B. And I am uh incredibly thankful, incredibly grateful every day that I Get to
have the conversations I get to have and to hopefully Share. Whatever. Things I have learned in any small way after the many, many experiments that I subject me and my life too. So it is really an honor.
to interact with all of you. And have a Wonderful evening. Wherever you may be, if you're listening to this in the morning. Good morning, have a wonderful morning or afternoon, have a wonderful day, as it may be. And everything that has been discussed will be put into the show notes later.
If this is broadcast on the podcast at Tim.blog slash podcast. And until next time. Just be a little bit kinder than you think is necessary when you walk out that door. If everyone is an asshole, just remember You are probably the asshole, so it'd be a good time.
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