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Everything I Learned From 48 Hours With MrBeast (The +$1B Mindset)
Amongst this group of very successful people It was very clear. That Jimmy is an outlier. He's an outlier because of his mindset, because of his ambition, because of his level of s of obsession, because of his work ethic. Because of his Absolute disregard for social norms. So let me just tell you something that stood out.
I feel like I can rule the world, I know I can be what I want to I'll put my all in it like my day song on the bone. I'm back. I'm back from Camp MFM. You know, camp is it even called Camp M F M if only one of us went, I don't know. We we have to debate that, but I'm back. I have so much good stuff to share. I have This is this it's a crazy event.
Honestly, it's kind of a batshit crazy event. I'll give it batshit crazy. It is So interesting what happened here. I have so many notes I'm gonna share with you. But first I saw something completely unrelated that I gotta tell you about. So By the way, before we even get to all of that, we have to explain
That you hosted this big event. Now you're gonna tell me some amazing thing that you just saw. We do all of this for free. And all we are ask asking for our dear viewer here if you're on YouTube.
Hit that subscribe button for us. That's all we asked for. And people say that all the time, but you want to know, Sean, what I wanna make sure that our listeners, our viewers know. It takes them literally a second, but it means so much to us and actually changes our lives if everyone does it. So hopefully people will see the dedication that we have in this content and pay us back by just giving us a subscribe. So that's all I want to do. Change a life. Just change a life today with one simple tap. Um, all right, so before I tell you all about Camp OFM, I gotta tell you about this amazing evil genius affiliate marketing play that I saw.
Uh somebody share on Twitter. So I don't know if you saw this. It involves twenty three and me. So okay, so basically this guy points us out. He goes, Check this out. This is the most evil Jesus thing I've ever seen. And he points out this tweet. That um Uh user.
Her name is Stella. Posted. And she says, Hey My friend Elizabeth is looking for an unvaxxed Sperm donor.
Sam, you're halfway there. Um she said, I'm looking for somebody who's blue eyed, white five of them? Which half like I'm I'm vaccinated, but I now you need to convince me to give my sperm or I'm We're half eligible. Uh all right, so blue eyed, white five eleven or taller, blah, blah, blah. So it's has this requ set of requirements. Big O yeah, big o but then Uh there's so there's some things in here that are like a little bit
Interesting. Makes you raise one eyebrow. So the first one, she says. Follows a healthy meat focused diet. Specific, but okay. Second.
No Jewish or African ancestry. Slightly racist, but okay. Then it says must be natural insemination, she will not do IVS. DM me. Okay, so she doesn't want to do the normal sperm donation process, wants natural insemination when she's a little bit of a five ten white guy who's unvaxxed. So basically anyone who lives in Missouri she wants to have sex with.
Got it. So you see that first thing. Then she tweets again, says hey That last tweet got so many so much about I just want to add some detail. Um
So she retweets it again. Reiterates the criteria, but then she adds some photos of the girl too. She says As you can see, she is beautiful. Pure blooded European. Okay.
Convert. Uh intelligent has has a child bearing body, which I've always dreamed of having myself. And uh Your offspring will be raised extremely well and they post a bunch of pictures of her and it's like this kind of hot model looking girl. So this guy points out, he's like this tweet got Like
Almost three million views. And if you do it, if you DM the person, then they send you a link and they're like, Hey, cool, you're interested. Awesome. Um, you know, she would love to have, you know, naturally conceive with you. Um random five foot eleven white guy who's unvaxxed.
Um You just gotta Make sure you have the the you satisfy all the criteria. Take this twenty three and me and submit your results and then that'll say that you're eligible. But it's like an affiliate code. For me. It's not this girl's so
Probably this I say this girl. There's probably no girl. What actually is is this fat guy in his basement. It's tricking. Tons of guys were like, maybe I'll Impregnate this
This hot European model. Um, I just gotta say there's twenty three and me and basically even if you get paid the the normal twenty three and me like referral bonus is twenty bucks per person who does it. So if you just do the math on this funnel. Three million people see this tweet. Let's say that
One tenth of one percent are gonna actually go do this. That's Three thousand people that went and did this at minimum. That's sixty K in revenue off this tweet.
About the weight revenue. Isn't this crazy? That next week. twenty three of me sitting down, they're like at their marketing, uh, they're in their marketing meeting and they're like, All right, we have to like, let's do some, let's look at the data and see who our target demographic is. Wow, like
I Apparently this marketing company just told us they did some research Our new users love Jords. Should we like should we have a bunch of white guys named Todd who wear like jean shorts in our commercials? Like that's is that our new target demographic? Just like everything's skewed now where they're just like all this one type of person. Totally. Totally. They're like, oh, I guess Twitter's our best channel and Stella appears to be our best retailer. Who is Stella? Should we be advertising on Twitch? Is this um
Is this evil or is it evil genius?'Cause it's a fine line between evil and evil genius. I I think it's evil genius. So let's go on to the next part. Camp M F M. All right. So Let's start with the following.
Was it good? Was it great? Was it life changing? I'm gonna go with life changing. I'm gonna go with life changing. That's how it was. Everyone I spoke with who went.
It ranged between the worst was great. The highest was life changing. So you had a good that that's a good high end. Yes. So let me just explain what we did. So we basically took Twenty people. To
Greenville, North Carolina. Which is middle of nowhere. Um we basically stayed At Mr. Beast's house. Uh there. So last year we st we did this thing once.
And we realize oh, this is really cool. If we bring A bunch of interesting people that we know in the business world and then a few entertainers and some people that Mr. Beast knows in his world. This can become a very interesting event. We did it again this year. We had twenty people. And I got some highlights, I got some lowlights, but where do you want to start? How should I how should I do this? What what I actually wanted to ask you about was uh
The evolution of Jimmy aka Mr. Beast because My perception of him last year. So I went and hung out. I w I went to Lowen last year. I couldn't go this year. But Last year How old is he?
Was he twenty four last year? Twenty fine now. Okay, so he's super young and and and So here's my perception of him when I met him last year. He had he clearly had this factor. of like I hadn't met anyone like him, but when we talk about like a Steve Jobs or or a
And Elon Musk, these conquerors. Like he had that it factor. It was very clear that this guy was crazy focused and he was insane in mostly all the right ways. But he's still had some aspects of a normal twenty four year old. Um he felt a little impatient about certain things.
He felt like uh he was still trying to like He had n he had great conversations, but then there's other times where it's like oh you're just a normal twenty four year old where you're gonna be a little bit more than Uh maybe uh are are you said something rude or something like that.
And then this year I heard from someone who went from the year before, they go, Dude, Jimmy has evolved So much. He's still only twenty five. But which is insane. He's only twenty five. But he now has like is morphing into this proper visionary
where i i I believe that he's gonna take over the world. Was that true? A lot of that is true. Uh you could definitely see the evolution, which is kinda crazy. So he um So for people who don't know, Jimmy is basically one of the Most Famous people on planet Earth.
It's kind of like Bizarre when you look at the numbers. Like he is The biggest creator on the biggest app in the world. He's he's the number one most followed creator. On YouTube.
He's almost the number one channel on YouTube. There's only like one channel that's bigger, which is like this Indian music channel. Um he's the fastest growing, he's the biggest, he's the biggest on YouTube, he's the biggest on TikTok. So the two biggest Entertainment apps in the world, YouTube and TikTok. He's the num basically the number one creator on both.
Were the stats like One out of five What was it? Was it uh maybe like one out of ten people on earth see his videos once a month or something like some stupid stat like that. Dude you can look at this a hundred ways and it's insane. It's like more people watch his content than watch the Super Bowl every month. It's like okay, well, what are we doing here? What what is this? How What does this even mean? I think like his average video gets eighty million views. It's hard to even like fathom that. And then you go outside with him and you know, wherever you are
it's like a Michael Jackson level of fame, right? So was it really I mean we didn't go anywhere last year, but you guys like it. Um so c so kind of insane. So that's the first thing. It's just hard to even wrap your head around that level of Uh. Fame and success at this age. He's running a billion dollar company, so he's
His company is worth well over a billion dollars, which is the combination of His channel. Is he the running it? Yeah, it's him. It's his whole ship is him, right? Like But does he have a CEO or is he also the CEO? He has like a CEO, but like The CEO reports to him. He's the owner. Right. So like the owner is number number one. Um Okay, so he's got basically
What what changed from last year? Let's start with that. Uh first the guy lost thirty pounds. So after last year's camp Uh He watched the video of himself playing basketball, was like Oh my God, I'm so slow and out of shape. F S.
And you could see that like, you know, the type of person who can become the number one creator on YouTube you know, by obsessing and focusing for ten years. Guess what? That guy can transform his body in a year or two, right? So he's like On an extreme like bodybuilder workout uh program. He's got like his bodybuilder meals, he's got his trainer who follows him around. And he they built a gym right outside of his studio that we went and hung out in. It's like
This is where he works out of it. Bate he's like I only have three goals this year. Grow the channel. Get big. And sell chocolate. Those are the three things he's doing. And like that's another interesting thing.
Last year when we talked to him, I don't know. You didn't go to his studio last year, but we did. And um He had like ten things he was doing. It was like, Oh, I wanna You know, do this mobile gaming thing and then I'm doing this over here, I'm doing this, this this.
And uh Because why not? He could do any of those things, right? Like You and me find it hard to say no to opportunities. Yeah, texted Ben. Ben was so every night me and Ben Ben so Ben Levy, he is my business partner, he helped organize the whole event.
But during the event we're basically not talking because we're just working different parts of the room and Yeah, me and Ben talk twenty four seven anyway, so we don't need to talk at this event. But at the end of the night he would text me and be like, yo Like All right, brain dump. Like we were just text random words. We don't even explain them to each other. It's like we'll talk about this later. Here's some takeaways, here's some insights, here's some learnings, here's some
Ways we can help somebody in this room, like whatever. And one of the things I text him, I go, It's embarrassing, man. Jimmy has one literally At least one thousand times more opportunities than us. Like This podcast creates a lot of opportunities and
You know? where we are in the tech world create some opportunities, but he literally has at least a thousand X more opportunities. And he does less he says yes to less stuff than we do. We have. Like we're doing four things he's doing two. And like that's insane. Like that's that just shows like how
Poorly we are our our our staying focused and committed to what actually matters and and being smart about Saying yes and no to things. I said if this guy could say no. To literally
a thousand or maybe ten thousand better opportunities than what we're saying no to. Like We that's something to learn from. So Okay, what changed? Uh
He lost a bunch of weight. His channel has basically like doubled in the last year that we've we talked to him. He's like added like I don't know, a hundred million more subscribers. Uh H chocolate business has taken off. So I really underestimated this chocolate business feestables.
When I had a chance to invest in this thing, like if the earlier rounds. And I was like, chocolate. company, like that's I don't know. Why why chocolate? Like uh I get it, your audience is young, but like
Chocolate's kinda like Low priced, it's like uh Yeah. Yeah, I mean how often do people how often do people rebuy this thing? Like shouldn't he be building like you know A mobile game or something like that. That's kinda what I was thinking. And last year when we were with them
I think the results were like It's okay or it's it it might it might be okay. Like it was classic number three. He was like, Oh, I got Bees Burger, it's a burger chain, virtual restaurant, that's doing I think it was doing like a hundred million gross or something at the time. They've since shut that down. Um, and then Or he like
Doesn't work on that anymore. They had like a couple of things in the pipe. They had this like translation service thing for like YouTubers, whatever. They had all the stuff. Chocolate was like number three maybe last year. And now it's like Every day I wake up and think, How do I sell more chocolate? Right. Like it's like that level of like hyper obsession. And
Yeah, gonna do hundreds of millions in chocolate sales this year. with a clear path to how this could become Like he's like basically it's like there's Five chocolate companies that matter. They're valued in the billions up to, you know, thirty billion dollars.
Uh we are eating share like crazy. Um Yeah, these guys can't touch us when it comes to marketing. And so, you know, we are just blowing through the like retail doors, basically. It's like yeah, like Get into Walmart. Walmart is the main thing.
And guess what? I can drive more people to Walmart than these guys can. And so he is just like really blown that business up, which is pretty impressive. T you know, now it's pretty obvious that that's gonna be a a billion dollar plus business. I would bet. That he's gonna sell that chocolate brand.
Um. Six billion dollars. That's my guess. I think that's what's gonna I w I think if we fast forward the news Three years from now.
Uh, you know, Mr. B sells the majority steak or in in the chocolate business for at a six billion dollar valuation. That's insane. And what about his mindset? Um so you said he focused more? Um what else changed?
Well Oh so Joe Rogan has this thing he says about David Goggins where he goes, He's uncommon amongst uncommon men. So This room was really interesting because I don't know, the average network uh you know, even take out Joe who's like, you know
Worth like. Seven to ten billion dollars or something. Yeah, When we were doing the intro, I was like, you know Between me and Joe, we're worth Almost ten billion dollars. So so basically even if you take him out of it, you know, this is a room of very, very successful people.
Average was probably like, I don't know. hundred million dollars net worth or something like that. Amongst this group of very successful people It was very clear. That Jimmy is an outlier. He's an outlier because of his mindset, because of his ambition, because of his level of s of obsession, because of his work ethic.
Because of his Absolute disregard for social norms. So let me just tell you some things that stood out. So basically He's he he was very humble. He was like, you know, he's like I he's like, I've made every mistake you can make trying to run this business. He's like, I've hired and fired like six CEOs. I thought We hire the Disney guy. Surely he'll know things. No, he doesn't know shit about YouTube. That's not gonna work.
Uh, we hire this person over here and then they build the whole thing out and I realize oh my God, they built this wrong. We gotta get rid of all that. He's like, So I've made all these mistakes. He's like, so I wanna learn from you guys because I've I'm only twenty five. I've only been doing this For a couple of years now. You guys might have been doing this for twenty more years than me, right? Like there's people in the room were fifty years old, right? So it's like
It's a different Um Different. Like level of experience. He's like
He's like, I'm just making things up. I'm sitting here in North Carolina just making things up. I don't even have access to people like you on most days to even ask questions. So he'd be like, I'll tell you some examples. So he's like uh We were like, So what worked for you? How have you scaled this thing up? He goes. Oh, I just create clones. And we're like what? He's like
Yeah, I just wanted to clone myself. I was like, God. I know I could do this, but I don't have the time. So I need to clone somebody. He's like, We're like, What do you mean? What do you do? He's like So I literally have somebody essentially move in with me.
And I just Duct tape them to duct tape them to my hip. He's like, You're gonna follow me everywhere to everything. And for the first six months, All we're gonna do is just shadow me and just learn exactly how I think and what I want and what I do and why I do it. And
Then in six months? You start getting your you start doing those things. And he's like, I basically now cloned myself several times and now I have And then they clone themselves. That's what we do. And we're like So you literally have the guy live with you?
He's like, Yeah. What that it would be better than if he didn't, right? And we're like, Yeah, but like what about his like family and stuff? He's like Yeah, I mean I just Do you want to do this or not?
And so like like one of the guys One of the guys who's like his right hand man now. Last year when we went. He was a guy just like
Uh, you know, he does these challenges like live in this circle for a hundred days and you get like half a million dollars. This was the guy living in the circle. This is like a random contestant. But he had a background in video production and he had some experience and so They actually recruit him after that experiment to
Work with him. Now he's like his right hand man, that does everything with him. He was with him twenty four seven. I was like Dude, you got like kids. This is like a Saturday. Are you supposed to be working? He's like Yeah, I work every day. I work all day, every day.
And we're he's like, I made a deal with my family. I was like, look, I'm coming out here, it's a once in a lifetime experience. You're not gonna see me for like the next nine months. Hopefully after nine months I will have like set up a system where I'll be back, you know, home a little bit more, but like This is an this is an adventure and I want to go on it. This is like the pinnacle of my career. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to work with this guy on this type of stuff.
So I'm gonna go All in. And this all in mentality was just so pervasive. I'll give you another simple example. The guy who's currently his assistant. We were like How'd you get the job as assistant? And he's like, Oh, um
We're like, Did you interview for this? How did he like pick you? He's like not an interview, he's like They uh really wanted to play this board game. But And you know, Amazon Prime was gonna take two days.
And so one of his guys hit me up'cause he knew I had the game and he's like, Fly here right now and uh we want this game now. We want to play now. We don't wanna wait two days for Amazon Prime. We want To play this game tonight. He's like, so I just got on a flight and it came and I handed him the board game. And they were like
Cool. If you're willing to do that. You can like you can make it here. Uh do you want do you want a job? You're extreme enough. And he's like he's described so I was asking this guy, I was like, How do you filter for this?'Cause they were they were trying to pick up like how do we keep this culture as we scale? of people who are just all in.
And he's like, uh 'Cause like now when I interview people, we do like these psychographic like test to get figure out your personality profile, but he's like, then I'm gonna talk to you. He's like, I'm gonna spend an hour convincing you. How hard this is gonna be. And how much you're gonna have to sacrifice to be here.
And I can just see in that, do they flinch? Did they start asking me about Vacation policies? Or Do they get excited about like kind of like going on this mission? Like this mission to Mars and our of their version of the mission to Mars.
I thought that was fascinating that he's basically breeding this insane Work culture. The team has leveled up so much. The quality of people he has around him from last year to this year has leveled up so much. And He just breaks all the social norms, like just being like
Yeah, uh He's like one guy. He's like uh I talked to his main like one of his like main content guys, his like editor thumbnail guy. Like this guy's job title is like Master of thumbnails, basically, he just does thumbnails. And I was like, How did this work? He's like, Well, I had my own channel that was doing well. I was like, How do you convince me to do this? He's like, Well, his channel was taken off.
He's like, We were always talking about like strategies and ideas every day in like our little mastermind. And we would just sit in Discord all day and talk about what like what's working, what's not, studying the platform. And he's like, I just knew this guy's like hyper obsessed, he's gonna make it. And he offered me the he's like first I started helping him. And he wasn't paying me or whatever, I was just helping him out whenever I could.
He's like then he told me like hey I need uh you know, I need a thumbnail for this like tonight. He's like, Oh, dude, sorry, I'm at a wedding and like by the way, I don't work for you. So, you know. It's not gonna work. He's like, so he wired me ten grand and he's like uh Can you make the thumbnail, please? So I told my girlfriend, I was like, I left the wedding.
And I made the thumbnail and I've never looked back since and since my role has grown and you know, it's he's made it all worth my while to be here to shut down my own channel to go all in. And I just thought it was fascinating the level of like disregard for like Convention Partly because he doesn't know it and partly because he's like
Well We need this, so what's the best way? Like Can't we just Theoretically, couldn't we just find a guy with the game and tell him to book a flight and he'll be here in a few hours? Cool.
We're not limited by Amazon shipping. Like ninety-nine people out of a hundred would not Try to bypass Amazon's Fastest shipping. as like the way to get something. I remember um
Years ago, ten plus years ago, my wife worked at Facebook and She was um telling her father about working at Facebook. And sh I think my wife worked there starting when there was six or nine thousand people, I forget. And uh My father in law was like
Why do you need nine thousand people to run a website. Like why do you need nine thousand people for like a web page? What you what do all those people do? And that's what I I someone had said that Jimmy has uh Mr Beast has um Uh
hundreds of employees working for him. And at first I was like How do you need hundreds of employees? And then I had to re I had to rethink it. I'm like, Well, no, he's actually he's a movie studio. It just instead of theaters, it's on it's on your phone or on your TV. I was like, this guy is he has just built like the new the new Paramount or whatever the studios are, the Warner Brothers. And that's exactly what he's doing. And it's crazy fascinating because
You know, I did this a little bit with newsletters, but not with nearly that intensity. Where it was like let's just take a small thing or something people think is small and try to blow it up and At the time it was email. People thought it was uh just like a Something you disregard. I'm like, no, we can get like five million subscribers and turn it into a business. And of course, it was only a fraction of what he did, but that's basically what he has done with YouTube. But
at a with a much better result where he's like, What's this one this one small thing that people are dismissing? And he's built the whole studio around it. It's Pretty amazing. And the other thing, you know, if you talk to him he's like uh He's like, It's impossible to do what I'm doing better than me. He's like, Because I'm gonna spend
You know, ten times more than anyone. I use every waking hour of my day to think about this. I hire all the best people in the world. I reinvest all of my profits back into this. And I'm gonna do this.
I exact and I think in decades, not not years. So how could you beat that? And if you just abstract this away, like forget about the fact that he's doing that for YouTube channels. Like There's something to be inspired by and learn from that from that, right? Like
If you were willing to work in Think in decades, not years. work every hour, every every thought in your brain is consumed by how do I do this better? Um, you reinvest all your money and say, I will spend as much as I can to make the best product possible to get this into as many people's hands as possible. Like
Can you lose? Like what is there to fear? What how could you possibly lose with that equation? And I think that that is just a very fascinating uh mindset to see in practice. A lot of people could say that shit. Very few people can actually do it.
And I know that he says he invests everything in and we had Reed on the pod and he had kinda insinuated that. Like sometimes what they do is it's a mess, like because they move so fast. So like we just miss some stuff, but that's okay. Do you think that Jimmy is cash poor then? Like is he just like everything is tied up into his business? I don't know. I don't want to speculate too much on that, but
Uh I think You know, the reality is he ra he he's a he is a venture back startup. He raised venture capital and he is doing what You know Um what an Airbnb did or what a Facebook did was like, I'm gonna lose a ton of money now every year.
But building up all of this market share. So that then I can make back, you know. I could become a ten billion or hundred billion dollar company. That's literally what he's doing. He raised like
Fifty million plus. And invest all of that into content. To grip build this enormous following of being the most followed creator on TikTok and YouTube and hundreds of millions of of fans. And then he used that to launch a chocolate business that's gonna be worth billions of dollars plus
His back catalogue is worth a lot of money, plus His sponsorships and and ad revenue will will make a lot of money, plus any other business he launches will make a lot of money, right? So he he just did the He he he is a movie s movie production studio in terms of his operations. But he's like a venture he'm more like a venture back startup than he is like a creator. Can you talk so
When I hear about the way that he lives Part I I'm definitely inspired. But I'm only inspired because I'm not gonna change the way I do things so much like him, because that's just not my personality and I don't think that's what I enjoy is to be that all in of like, you know, I'm I'm more well balanced, which means I'm gonna be less successful and I'm okay with that.
But There are um You had other guys there. So Joe Gebia. I don't know what his intensity level is like. I've only spent three minutes with them and I've read about'em. That's about it.
But then you also had Syed. So Syad's thirty two side has businesses. He was on our podcast. He's got businesses that no one will talk about because it's not really that popular, but I imagine he's in the realm of being a billionaire and then you had Joe Debbie, who is multi billionaire and his company is One of the biggest and That's in the world.
How did did you learn different perspectives on how to crush it based off of being around Like those Three examples, Jimmy, Syed, and uh Joe. Yeah, a hundred percent. I'll I'll give you a couple of Quick observations. So one observation is uh by the way, there was probably like two or three more
People that were Like. Billionaires at this event. So you get to see like a range of like, oh, how do people act? How do people think? How do people operate? And it's like yeah, so he's like Small team, simple business.
unsexy, not gonna be famous, don't want to be famous, don't want people knowing my name. I wanna be able to walk around He travels the world with his son. Um you know. For two weeks out of every month. That's what he wants in his lifestyle.
You talk to Mr. Beast about kids and he's like It's a shame people have kids, man, they go soft. Right. He's just like he's like damn he he literally like I don't I wanna put words in his mouth, but the the general feeling is like It sucks that people start off really ambitious trying to do big cool cool awesome shit and then
Like Just get tired or they they either get tired or worn out or disillusioned or they uh just shift their focus to family and like He's just like That's not gonna be me.
Um and so you have t totally different perspectives on these things and you know, no judgment. There's many ways to win. Each person should choose the game they want to play. Um But I will share a couple of observations. Number one. This is probably a uh just a good observation for me in general in life.
The smartest and most successful people in that room were the quietest. They were the ones doing the most listening. The least bragging. The least kind of like You know
uh you know, word vomit of storytelling or trying to interject themselves. Oh You did that. I did something similar too. Let me tell you about me. Me. And uh It was the people who were the least successful And the least
You know, sharp in terms of like had the most uh wisdom or or intelligence on on a on a topic. That we're talking the most. And I'm guilty of that. I'm in the talk the most camp. So I was like, damn. That's a real like takeaway for me from this was
Watch how those people operate. You want to be them, you have to watch how they operate. And you know, they definitely do that the the sort of the ratio of two ear two ears for every one mouth, right? Like double the amount of listening as talking. If not more. And uh that was just so obvious to me at this event. They had the lead and is the also the people who were the actually the most successful had
the least kind of like I would say the whole group was pretty good about like not trying to brag or one upsmanship. You know, or trying to like assert themselves. Um But the people who were the most successful had that had that had that in in the least quantity, which I thought was very, very interesting.
The second thing I thought that was that was interesting was Um Uh just back into there was like always these The people who were very, very successful in one area More often than not, if I ask them about some random side quest hobby.
They were also like world class at that thing. Like we were talking about Yeah. Show was super successful Air B. He's also like
You know, extremely fit. Not less like kinda fit, because extremely fit. Uh Jimmy uh Mr. Beast, you know, uh the day after our event, he's like, Oh, I'm uh what was like, what are you doing tomorrow? He's like, Oh, I flew I'm flying in all of he's like, I play this one board game that's super niche called Dune. Is like and I there's no tournament for Dune. So I created it and I'm flying in the the French champion, the British champion, the German champion, like the best players in the world.
To come. Compete with me at this game. He's like, I did this last year and I won. He's like I play, you know, these guys play ten thousand hours a year or whatever, a hundred thousand hours a year or something crazy. Like
I don't have that time, but I like, you know, when I do play I binge this thing. You know, that's my way of unwinding is to become World class at this random niche. Strategy board game. And like we've heard these stories about how, you know
Peter Thiel is also a grandmaster chess champion. Or Travis Kal. We tennis globally, right? And it's like Yeah, Jibby literally won the competition against the other best champions in the world at this board game. And they're they were so bad, they're like We gotta run this back. He's like, Great, let's run it back. Let's do it again this year. And like, you know, he put up a twenty grand prize. There's like no prize pool for this thing. Uh,'cause it's like such a niche game. And I thought
That's also kinda interesting, which is Once you develop kind of this laser beam that can come out of your eyes and you hone that laser beam on your main thing. If you ever shift your focus to something else. You're like Homelander and you just can just burn a laser through whatever that next thing is because you have practiced the art of
Yeah. Obsession, focus, excellence, you know, breaking something down into its core parts and building it back up again. That was the other thing. Where I was like, dude, how do you describe yourself? Are you Like do you just are you an entertainer? Are you like a chocolate guy now? Are you a business are you a businessman?'Cause you're in a room with business people. Like how do you are you a YouTuber? What do you call yourself? You know what he said? Take a guess what he said.
I don't know, a business builder. He's like, I'm a data junkie. No way. He's like, Yeah, I basically just studied the algorithm. Studied the platform. And I figured out what's gonna work and I decided I'm gonna study this more than anyone studies anything.
And he's like, then I've basically figured out what type of content's gonna work. And then through my experimentation, I figured out what's gonna work. Like When they you know, when we put up a thumbnail For our YouTube channel. We put up one thumbnail. And at some time we're like, you know what?
I don't know if that's a good one. And then we're like Screwable A B test. Our YouTube team is gonna hear this, I'm gonna be freaking out. I think they put up a lot more than that. No, no, they don't. Day A B test. There's A and B. That's it. You know what he does? He'll put up like they will test Like hundreds of thumbnails like rap in rapid succession. During the f when they first release a video.
They will cycle through hundreds of thumbnails programmatically to try to find the winning one during that. And then they're also like, Well Our loyal fans, our hardcore viewers come first. They're gonna want to see Jimmy's face. But after that, after, you know, basically the twenty four hour period, it's gonna be more fans that are from the platform just
people browsing YouTube, they don't know Jimmy. They don't want to see his face. So let's Just put this uh, you know. This bathtub full of snakes or whatever the challenge is. Let's make that the thumbnail. And told me about that. And I go, Jack, is he doing that? Because he's so big, or is he so big because he did that and he said the second one? He's so big because he did that.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like he th he's successful because of that. He doesn't do that now because he's successful. Another random nerdy takeaway I had. Um But I actually I'll just leave it as this last one. So the random nerdy takeaway.
Um He is making the The biggest he has he is attacking the biggest Tam on YouTube. So like Tam is this idea of total addressable market. And
I could think of a viral idea. Maybe an idea that's that's kinda juicy. But like His ideas are Uh like
You know, an eight year old in the Philippines or a twenty five year old in the United States or a forty year old woman in in the UK. Would all be interested in his video. Why?'Cause is it is video is a like Y it's a video you don't even need words to explain. You could literally just with the thumbnail or a like a hieroglyphic explain this. It's like Man trapped in room one hundred days.
All right, I'm interested. What is that? Right? Or like, you know. Um You know Two people Uh
Yeah. First to leave the circle loses. It's like okay, I get it. And a million dollars first to leave the circle loses or He'll do a video that's like um Million dollars.
If this If there's like you know FBI agent can catch me. Right. It's just like very, very simple premises that appeal to a really, really broad amount of people. And I just That was something I hadn't really appreciated before. I thought he was making kinda like
viral clickbaity type of stuff. When I didn't factor in was He will only pick ideas. That can literally appeal to like one billion people.
And that's just different than what most people do on the platform. Most people don't like our channel, for example. the stuff we talk about, it's not meant to do that. It's meant to appeal to a narrow niche of people in a deep way. He plays a different game. appeal to the entire world in a small way. What did you think of hanging out with like guys like Jack Smith and Val? That was that's the first so we had Val or I had one day you weren't here, so I had Val on the pod.
Val's a guy who has like four different companies with like three or two of them in the hundred million dollar a year range. What did you think of hanging out with a guy like Val? He's cool, right? Everybody had interesting things to share. Can I tell you the lowlights? Cause I don't wanna just say all the good things. Can I tell you the bad things? Yeah. F uh the big the worst thing was not getting to invite everyone. So
We only invited twenty people this year. We invited less people than last year, because last year was kind of a lot to manage. Like we had like thirty people last year. This year we targeted fifteen. So we try to cut it in half. Um It ended up being twenty at the end, but uh That was the worst part because
Yeah. It's really, really hard to say no to people or like not invite people who you you're friends with. You just didn't want you know, they just You're trying to create an event where there's new people there and so therefore you just can't do it. So that was the that was shitty. Uh also another thing. I hate hosting these things.
I know it's good. Meaning there's so much value in hosting this. People feel so work. It's a lot of work and it's Honestly, I'm okay with work. It's just socially like I feel drained. You know sometimes you say this about the podcast, you're like, dude, I feel drained after these and I'm like, dude, I could go all day.
At the end of the night, every one of these, I'm like, I am so oversocialed out. I am I'm I I'm an introvert, actually, it turns out. You're performing as well. And I want everybody to have a good time. And it's like, dude, you can't control if people are having a good time. Yeah, you're working, basically. And so it was Socially, I have felt so uh exhausted. Socially exhausted is the right word. The last one, uh a couple other ones. Basketball?
Kinda mediocre. It was pretty sloppy because the overlap of People who are You know, super successful and interesting that also are Good pick up basketball players. Surprisingly low.
People lie. We're like, Yo, do you play? They're like, Yeah. Love to. They show up on my You don't play.
Do you you Well next year do fighting, do fight camp. That so we agreed to do a fight camp. I talked to Michael Bisbing before. Michael Bisbing, uh UFC guy and YouTuber. He would be interesting because If he would everyone would want to meet Jimmy or Joe Gebbia. Michael Bisning would be cool. I bet I mean and you know, some UFC guys have listened to us and DMed us. That would be fun. I wanna this is what I wanna do. I wanna take any of like the kind of the hobbies uh and then mix
Basically integrate them. So right, rather than like work life balance where it's like there's the things I like to do and then there's work. And then they're separate. They're always trading off time against each other. No, no, integrate them. And so take something I love to do, which would be like, you know, like boxing or or sparring in some way or basketball. And integrate it with like
You know, a networking event, basically. Which you lost ten you lost so last year. Last year was crazy because this is when I saw that Jimmy was insane. We are all just hanging out in this basket basketball. And he like didn't even make an ordeal of it. He just goes, Hey, Sean. If you can make this half court shot, I'll give you ten thousand dollars. And he didn't even say like if you don't make it, I get this, or you only have three shots to make it. Like there was no s I was like, What the fuck with Jimmy, why would you make this bet? And he was just insane. And he did it and you did it in like number five or three or something, and he gave you ten grand.
And I heard this year you lost ten grand doing the same thing at someone. Another low light. I lost the half card shot this year. I lost ten grand. To Joe. And it's one thing to lose ten thousand dollars. It's another thing to lose ten thousand dollars. to a multi billionaire. Because I was like, God damn, this is uh This is a it has a little extra kick to it. So Yeah, you paid for fifteen minutes fifteen minutes fly time on his jet.
Exactly. Uh exactly. Um And actually we because we lost the game, we had to go and do the like ice plunge in the like freezing cold lake thing.
Um So that was also, you know, part of the penalty of of losing the final championship game. So that kinda sucked. Um Yeah, so those are some of the some of the lowlights. Someone who went Mentioned to me
I they didn't say that you guys discussed this, but I assumed because he kept bringing it up. About prime. Um And apparent so W this is pretty mind boggling. So the Mr. Beast stuff is mind boggling that he has a chocolate company that makes hundreds of millions of dollars.
I looked up Prime. So Prime was started by Logan Paul and K S I. Publicly they said that the business and the second year business did one point two billion dollars in revenue. And I imagine that prime must have come up in your conversations. And I
Someone said that the two guys who founded it net alongside Logan and KSI were like young kids. Almost like they imply like they are nobody's like they had no business in getting into this industry and it has just crushed it and I guess My mind is like A billion dollars in sales, that's worth
Your prime, that's worth like a really high multiple because of how fast it's growing. That's worth billions of dollars. So you basically have created billions and billions of dollars in value off of a creator It's mind boggling. Did you learn anything interesting about Prime? Yeah, so I w I think some of that's accurate and some of it's not. So they did do Over a billion dollars by one point three, one point five billion and
What's kind of like its first full year, you know, it it launched in twenty twenty two. So the twenty twenty three numbers are The first full year of of you know, full counter your business. So that's that's bonkers, right? Obviously that's bonkers. No what n what business does over a billion dollars of revenue in his first year. That's be crazy.
Um They're not kids. So I think they're in their twenties, but they're not kids. They Are also not like never done this before. Remember we talked about those like status signals of like uh the the green flags of when you're young, white video game player um hacker of of popular thing.
Another one, you know, running your own Minecraft servers. That's another one. Um One other one is Sneaker flipper. So these guys were sneaker flippers. That's how they kind of like that was their road into business was selling, you know, sneakers.
Then they created this uh kind of like They did a couple of things, but then they they ended up creating something called Alani New, which I don't know if you heard about this, but it's like kind of this like Posh drink that like um It was started with this Instagram creator.
She's not anywhere near the level of like a Logan Paul or whatever. Um, but they started this thing, they've done partnerships with Kim Kardashian and others, like they made Kim Aid, like the Kim Kardashian flavor Thing. Alani knew. They did before prime. Like an energy drink and a pre workout.
Yeah, but it's like for women and it's like high end. It's like the you know equinox or whatever. Got it. And it's uh Alani New does over a hundred million dollars of profit. per year. So it's a it that itself is a almost billion dollar revenue revenue generating thing. So that's a
That is that itself is probably a multi billion dollar company that they built before Prime. Per year. So these guys did that. They have this this hold code called Congo Brands. They don't want people to know about them. You go to LinkedIn. Great picture. You go to Congo Brands, not much story. If anybody asks who owns Prime, they say Logan Paul and KSI. In reality, these guys own
Sixty percent of that company. Right. Logan and KSI own You know, the sort of like thirty to forty percent of that company. And so um That
Brand prime is gonna be My guess Is that that that ends up being like a twenty billion dollar Brand. It's insane.
Uh and you know, that is gonna make Logan Paul A multi billionaire off of off of uh prime. So You know. Celsius, you know that energy drink?
Yeah. Uh Celsius just sold Eight percent to Pepsi. For five hundred fifty million. So Celsius is valued at six billion. Prime is bigger than Celsius. It's gonna be bigger than Celsius, or it already is bigger than Celsius.
And so What an insane story. And that guy, Trey Uh Yeah, Mr. Beast Jimmy he was like, I call him like He's like I call the guy every day.
He's like that guy is so helpful to me with feestables. He's like, I'm calling that guy all the time. He is so smart. He is So far smart so much smarter than everybody else. In this space, it's insane. And he's like, I j I am just
getting so much learning from that guy. And he's like, That's why I like to meet people that I can learn from'cause I've seen how how much fat you know, it's like the same thing for me. He's like if I wanted to If you took my channel away. I could rebuild right back to where I am in three years. He's like
That's how trade is with CPG. And he's like, I'm just trying to find who that person is for all the different fields. He's like, I want to meet them. Yeah, what's crazy is if you Google Trey, like his name, like you barely get anything. There's no interviews. You know, some him on YouTube or an interview with him, nothing.
That's insane. Um, last question. All right, so you did this thing. You know what we call that? Lasagna. I know it. Tell them why tell them why we call it lasagna, Sam. What is it? You move in silence. Um
All right. So you did this thing. At worst. It was fun. At best it was life changing. If it is life changing.
How are you going to change? Laser. Focus, my friend. Uh In fact, during the thing uh You shouldn't have just listened to me four years ago.
Should have listened to you then, but the thing is you don't really have the same level of inspiration and motivation that Mr. Beast. This is true, and I'm not nearly as successful as them. If I had a few if I had a few zeros behind uh my bank account or uh my my Instagram account, maybe you would have listened. But it just It just sucks you couldn't have listened then. It's laser focus on content specifically. Cause uh you know, one realization, you gotta know who you are and you gotta know what you're into. Uh, for me
I think I'm probably like a B plus entrepreneur. But I think it could be A plus. in the content game. I think I it it would be impossible really for me to be a plus as an entrepreneur. I don't think I'm It's not where I'm naturally as talented. Um, plus I don't enjoy it enough to
go that hard as hard as you would want to to be at that top tier. But I do feel that way about making content. So that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna try to build The largest. content brand or audience around entrepreneurships around people who who are into the same ship we're into. Right. MFM has been awesome and it's like the it's kind of shown that that can be true.
But uh It's never been something I'm laser focused on. And I also don't think Podcast is the right Vehicle to do that. So I'm gonna do it. Off of
Podcasting because podcasting is not viral. Which is like what you what you want is to be able to spread your gospel to as many people as possible. The problem with podcasting is podcasting is like bottom of a funnel. It's like It's like where people Yeah.
Warm a deep relationship. It's not where they meet you. Do you get envy So like when I thought about Uh I've thought about that as well. Um, I'm not into content creation as much as yours, so that's not gonna be the path for me, but
I have used it as um You know, like A miniature Logan Paul prime thing, very very mu very miniat miniature compared to them. Um
Do you think that So for entrepreneurship, that sort of means that you're gonna be a B2B, like uh, you know, Sean to you're gonna sell something that businesses might buy. Or something that like we'll call it like the pro Sumer. So like not like a drink, but maybe someone who buys something for their job. Um Do you think that there's as many opportunities in that space as there is
Creating a drink. Or a makeup kit. Or uh whatever other consumer rules. I and also I'm not even worried about that. Like uh that will exist and uh it'll be what it'll be. Doesn't really matter.
Uh but yeah, it does. Like, you know. I don't think Tim Ferris when he started Yeah, four hour work week or even his podcast. would have been like, Yeah. And then what I'm gonna do is invest in Uber and make a hundred million dollars. Like
That's what happened, but it's not What you would have predicted. But of course, how does he get into that deal because he's Tim Ferris, because that's what who people want to rope into things. And so you know Getting into Shopify and
And Uber early on is how he made all the money. Um You couldn't really connect those dots. at the beginning, right? It's only something that later after the fact you can see how that all connected together. And are you prepared to be a thirty-eight year old YouTuber hanging out with a bunch of twenty two year olds all the time while you're wearing hoodies. I didn't say I was gonna do YouTube. My good friend Noah Kagan, he uh you know, he runs a really successful business that's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, so he's successful, but he um
Yeah, it's like a YouTube channel and I always make fun of him like dude, you're a forty two year old YouTuber, you fucking dork. Like you're hanging out with all the twenty two year olds who are like yo yo still. Like what are you like grow up, Peter Pad. Uh and so that's what all me making fun of you about. Uh so you could go and like Dude, w we had you and I had to do a a photo shoot recently. Because M FM they wanted to upload the title. Or the the picture. M
In that photo shoot, we had to stand there and do like 10 emotions. They're like, all right, act like you're someone just said something stupid and you think they're full of it. And like inevitably, every Picture is just this. Like you're you're shocked. And like we had to do these things. First of all, I hated that. I hated that. It was horrible. Dude, there was one where you had your hand like this, like you're gonna smack someone. Yeah, they're they were like you're angry. And then I did a bitchlap uh hand thing and I was like, what are you doing? Yeah. And and then they had a like I just had to hold a five.
Four, three. So they can like use my hands for different numbers. I hated that. I hated doing that. Um, so we're gonna be seeing that, but I can't like That's just not my DNA. But that um
That's gonna be you now. Congratulations. It's hard for me to be a little bitch, but I hope you enjoy it. Yeah. No, it was just like oh you know, like You know, a lot of the YouTubers, um, and this is a good thing, they're they're actors, they're they're performers, they're entertainers. We sort of started this just hanging out. When we go to places and people are like, Oh my gosh, I want to use your autograph. Oh can I take a picture, I'll be like And this is Sam. And then I'll introduce you too, okay? So don't worry. Well, y you have a little bit more of that acting DNA. But they they like you like performing a a a little bit. But they um
These guys are like hard they're they're you I mean, YouTubers are actors. And so it's it's Yeah, but you keep saying YouTube. I didn't say I'm gonna do YouTube necessarily. I know you didn't say that, but I'm I'm still gonna make fun of you for doing that. Don't let reality get in the way of what I'm gonna mock you for. Uh Can I tell you okay, so one of the things we did at this camp, by the way, is I'm not gonna tell you what was in it, but I'll tell you what we did. So Last year I was too afraid. To like Structure it.
Meaning last year I was like, Yeah, we're just gonna hang, it's gonna be cool, it's gonna be casual, it's gonna be great, it's gonna be awesome. Just hanging, no problem, just super cool. I was like I don't want to be the second grade teacher be like, All right, everybody, sit down. You know? Give me your sh like your bunny ears and like let's Dude in reality you need that.
You need to. And we needed that and and One of the best things last year was when somebody finally impromptu was like, Hey, so Do you guys want to do like some intro or like an icebreaker? Like who who are you guys and what what do you do? Can we learn something from each other? So this year I arranged it where I was like, All right, we're gonna do these things called tiny talks that I was like ever at night We're gonna have people do kind of like a flash, you know, five to ten minute talk on
their thing.'Cause everybody in this room is world class at something. Otherwise you wouldn't be in this room. So tell us what your world class at and how you do it so that we can kinda learn from it. So it was like Yeah. Mr. Beast does his YouTube master class. He's like, Here's here's my channel, here's the analytics. He's like, you know, just logs in.
He's screen sharing. It's like so here's how we think about this, here's what I did, here's what worked, here's what didn't work. Here's this trick we do on our thumbnails that makes this work better. I mean, like you couldn't pay for this, right? So he did that. Joe Gebby did one on his first startup before Airbnb and kinda like the lessons he learned there.
Read read the title and only give a one sentence summary of uh the takeaway that you had. Uh how I went from zero to one point three billion in real estate in ten years. Um the one sentence summary is This guy has an unfair advantage. That lets him play the game differently.
And I should just give him my money to invest. And that's what I'm doing. Okay. So like Uh yeah. Unfair advantages do exist. And when you have them. Parlando press. Push your but push your chips into the tape.
Uh all right, next one. Why bought twenty three gas stations and was it a good idea? Uh so last year at the camp somebody shared about why the how they owned a c you know ten gas stations or something. So one of the guys Went and bought twenty three gas stations after that. And
Um Funny story. And actually a pr it probably was a good idea for him'cause yeah, you know, he had sold his business and he needed something that would give him a lot of depreciation in year one, a lot of bonus depreciation, and gas stations do do that. So in that sense, it was a smart move. But now he holds all these assets that like It's gonna have to.
figure out if they were the right thing on in the long term. I think there's a different thing. Another guy did a presentation on Why venture capital mostly sucks and why people play the game totally wrong. And he is a V C? Um, so I thought that was a great talk. At the end of it, he did this thing called the Mount Rushmore of Death. I thought was interesting. He's like
We were like, Dude, how did you even think of investing in this one company that that took off. It sold for like three billion dollars. And he goes, Well Exactly. I first was Taking like a thousand meetings a year. Like most VCs do, and they're just like it so inundated with data that they actually like f lose the way to think.
So then I step back and I was like, Okay, I'm not gonna do just like constant inbound meetings just Mm. worried about missing the next big. Instead I'm gonna figure out Where would the next big thing live and I'm gonna go find it. So he did this thing the Mount Rushmore of Death, which is like
These four things cause death. More than anything else combined, right? Like these would make up eighty percent of all the reasons for death. Uh Peter Tier calls these the four horsemen, but he did this guy did Mount Rushmore. It's like Heart disease. Diabetes.
Cancer And um Dementia. And uh yeah, like dementia Alzheimer's, so like neuro neuro uh cognitive Um
Degeneration. And he's like, So then I just went and looked for what's the best company Uh an biotech that attacks One of those four. in a way that I think is plausible to to work and then he ended up finding a big winner in that space. So I thought that was kind of interesting.
Um another guy, he goes, My talk's about the three D's Of buying businesses. Death Divorce and distressed. He's like, you know, the best opportunities come if you can buy a business from somebody who died and the kids don't want to inherit the business. from a somebody who's going through a divorce and they have to, you know, sell their business or
distressed, you know, somebody took on too much risk. And you can basically go buy it for less than the intrinsic value of the business. And so one guy there, he had bought a business he was looking at buying this business, he would have had to pay like, you know, fifteen, twenty million dollars for it. Um
on top of the inventory that they had. And instead He ended up. He now he owns the business for the cost of the inventory that they own. Right.
He's like literally like I just paid for the inventory and I now own the whole business. And he's like, you know, and that was one of my suppliers, so it cut my cogs in half. It's just like these great Yeah, what do the what does a great deal look like? And you really start to learn what does a great deal look like. So Those talks I thought were
Badass. All right, let's wrap up and let me make one suggestion. Don't turn this into a business. This is perfect. As it is. Don't fucking wanna do business.
Camp M F M. This is awesome. This is perfect. Don't fuck this up. Number two, do it again. And number three, keep it at
Whatever size, twenty. I I would be bad at picking because I would want everyone to come. That is so stressful.
But hopefully you don't ruin this'cause this is definitely a gem. Um I'm when we made the list of people we would want to come, the list was a hundred and forty two. So you had to go from one hundred forty two to inviting fifteen. It uh was terrible. I was I had I'm I don't regret my decision. I uh you know, I I had uh put family time in.
But I had immense effort. From all of that, you didn't regret your decision? No, I don't regret it at I don't regret it. But but I I I I have massive FOMO. I wish I was in a position that it would have been that I could have made it, but uh I I'm I I had huge amount of FOMO'cause Ramon and Jack were giving me updates and Val and Ben and Uh Nick and I would just text people, like, How's it going? Is it fun? And they would send me pictures so I
Sort of got like one percent of you know, uh ongoing updates. It sounded awesome. Everybody at the thing was just they were just calling it Sean's Bachelor Party. I'm so happy to be at Sean's Bachelor Party Which is hilarious because I didn't have a Bachelor party, but if I did, this is exactly what I would have wanted to do. It's basically a group of guys who are all a lot of fun. Uh tons of jokes. Play basketball.
Play poker. talk business. That's like the ideal bachelor party. So I think maybe we should just rebrand it to that. My annual bachelor party. Well no, keep it Camp M F M so I by default always get an invite. You blew us off this year. Hey, you know how it is. Um
And if it went off. People were like, Where's Sam? And I was like, Oh, you know, he just had a baby. They're like, Wasn't that like three months ago? And I was like, Yeah. And they're like that in? It was two and a half months ago. It was two and a half months ago. And I made the commitment that the first three I'm I'm at home. Um
I gotta do what I gotta do. Laser focus on that baby. I like it. I appreciate that. I was getting um I was laying with her And I was like shirtless and she was just in her diaper and I was changing her diaper and she shit all over me somehow. As I was getting a text from uh like Ramon being like Yeah, dude, now we're lifting weights and doing all this stuff. I was like, Oh, cool. Like uh
Let me wipe this poop off of me real quick because she just the poop just ran down my belly. Uh any tips how to get diarrhea out of my dude is there a time to talk about that? She literally puked on my face this week because I was like holding her up at my shoulder and she threw up and I got puke all over my face and I was like reading these texts and like seeing Nick Buber do like a DEXA scan and Joe Gabby jump in a lake and I'm like Oh, that's Oh yeah. We had a he has a DEXA in his gym and we put Nick on it and then we played a game where everybody had to guess his body fat percentage. And then I was like
Yeah, this would get everybody canceled nowadays, or this is like, you know, fat shaming. I'm pretty pretty sure this is the definition of fat shaming, but uh but he loved it. It was great. Yeah, that's that's baller. I I definitely uh wish I could have been there. Um Alright, that was a good episode. That was a good recap. Alright. I feel like I can rule the world, I know I can be what I want to Put my laul in it like a day.
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